Do I know when to roll in Sorcerer?

[Callan S.]

With some players, I'm like a broken record, clarifying if necessary like I'm doing here, until they finally figure that out.

Okay, okay, Ron - I think given in real life people get talked into ponzi schemes, that the sort of roll I talked about could be in a game, but it's not the sort of roll that's in Sorcerer (perhaps not even the sort of roll that is in nar games in general (though I'm not saying that's a rule, just a generalisation)).

[Ron Edwards]

Actually "convince her to invest in a ponzi scheme" is a roll-requiring action, because it's about her doing something: to invest. As long as her action is what's getting rolled about, then it's good.

As a reminder, in Sorcerer, "directive" type rolls like this one give the target character a choice: either to comply, or in not complying, taking a penalty (based on the victories of the roll) to whatever action they do take.

Best, Ron

[Callan S.]

I dunno, 'impress' her and 'convince' her are the same to me here, whether it's a ponzi scheme or a movie. Whatever it takes to get her to sign up to one or get off her butt and go to the other. I'll stress I've ceased just trying to impress - it's just a means to the end of the movies (jeez, can't you tell I'm ruthless?). Her taking the action of going with my PC. Whether it involves impressing or convincing, don't care. It's movie time! On a good roll, anyway!

I mean her going to the movies is her doing something, as much as investing in a ponzi scheme is doing something, surely? Sure it might seem minor, but hey, from little things...

[Ron Edwards]

Callan, now you're arguing for my position. When the conflict includes something the NPC is supposed to do, then you roll. I'm getting irritated because I keep saying the same thing, and you have shifted from saying one thing to saying what I'm saying, but as if you're still arguing with me. I think this conversation has to be over.