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Title: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Ron Edwards on July 29, 2005, 06:04:38 PM
Hello,

Clinton and I have discussed and agreed upon our next step for altering the Forge, but so far, it's not public beeswax yet. You'll see when it comes. But I had to go and hint about part of it, and sure enough, the wildlife starting stirring uneasily.

Over in Barriers to newcomers (http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/index.php?topic=16158.0), I talked about how it's going to change mainly to an archive, a set of pointer links, and a smaller but much more useful "ask Ron" forum about what I'm on about. Developments of the ideas, big ol' objections and retooling, and that sort of thing will simply be sent off to the pointer places (e.g. Vincent's anyway, various other blogs, websites, etc).

Somewhat mysteriously, Droog wrote,

QuoteRon, you old dragon, does that mean Actual Play is going too?

The answer is No. Whatever else will change, Actual Play, Indie Design, and Publishing will stand and perhaps even become more sophisticated in terms of software and archiving.

Best,
Ron

Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Sydney Freedberg on July 29, 2005, 06:12:35 PM
Not wishing to pry into things that aren't ready for public discussion, but just making sure I understand the antecedents of your pronouns:

Quote from: Ron Edwards on July 29, 2005, 06:04:38 PM
....it's going to change mainly to an archive, a set of pointer links, and a smaller but much more useful "ask Ron" forum about what I'm on about......Whatever else will change, Actual Play, Indie Design, and Publishing will stand and perhaps even become more sophisticated...

In other words, the "it" that will change to archive + links + "ask Ron" is specifically the current "GNS" and "RPG Theory" sections, rather than the Forge as a whole?
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: greyorm on July 29, 2005, 07:45:33 PM
I missed the original Diaspora thread back whenever it happened, but stumbled over it this morning and had some concerns and musings I posted to my quiet little livejournal (http://www.livejournal.com/users/greyorm/2612.html). Given the coincidental appearance of this thread at the same time, it seems appropriate to mention now to those who might be interested.
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Ben Lehman on July 29, 2005, 07:48:23 PM
Cool!

I'm very excited for the changes.

This post serves no purpose other than to express that excitement.

yrs--
--Ben
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Ron Edwards on July 29, 2005, 11:14:58 PM
Oh you guys make everything so damn complicated.

I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE GNS FORUM.

Geez.

Ron
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Vaxalon on July 29, 2005, 11:56:58 PM
I totally support this change.
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Ron Edwards on July 30, 2005, 12:46:49 AM
What's with all this approval?

Guys, it's not a democracy. If Clinton and I want to replace all your usernames with cruel versions of our own, we'll do it. If we want to change the site to a celebration of animated pink kitties, we will. If we decide that no role-playing games are any good except ours and we all have to talk about them only, then that'll be what the Forge becomes.

Screw your approval.* Go post in Actual Play.

Best,
Ron

* with the proviso that I do sorta appreciate it, so don't feel bad or anything
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Clinton R. Nixon on July 30, 2005, 01:02:42 AM
Quote from: Ron Edwards on July 30, 2005, 12:46:49 AM
If we decide that no role-playing games are any good except ours and we all have to talk about them only, then that'll be what the Forge becomes.

This is actually going to happen. And then TSOY eats your demons and takes your stuff. Seriously.
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: joshua neff on July 30, 2005, 01:30:22 AM
Quote from: Ron Edwards on July 30, 2005, 12:46:49 AM
If we want to change the site to a celebration of animated pink kitties, we will.

I'm really excited about this change.
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: jrs on July 30, 2005, 02:27:39 AM
Yay kitties!

Does this mean that the Forge will become a child-friendly site, or better worse, a no bad-feelings site?

meoOow,
Julie
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: greyorm on July 30, 2005, 03:30:11 AM
This is me, grinning at Ron's pain...

There's a good reason why I did not post that here as a reaction: note the very important ending to my LJ: "...which amounts to my sitting here mentally wanking...general mental puking." See, there's a point to that. Not to mention, that was all written in reaction to the old Diaspora thread, not this new round of "How we're changing the Forge" information.

Quote from: jrs on July 30, 2005, 02:27:39 AMDoes this mean that the Forge will become a child-friendly site

Come on, Julie, that should be obvious: Ron said he was still going to be posting here!
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: droog on July 30, 2005, 04:10:15 AM
Thanks, dragon. Please continue to burn villages in any way you see fit. The flames are so pretty!
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Ron Edwards on July 30, 2005, 04:37:58 AM
Child-friendly?

I said, animated pink kitties. Which is to say, they would be doing something.

Best,
Ron
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Jason Lee on July 30, 2005, 11:42:59 AM
Quote from: Ron Edwards on July 30, 2005, 12:46:49 AM
What's with all this approval?

Guys, it's not a democracy. If Clinton and I want to replace all your usernames with cruel versions of our own, we'll do it. If we want to change the site to a celebration of animated pink kitties, we will. If we decide that no role-playing games are any good except ours and we all have to talk about them only, then that'll be what the Forge becomes.

Screw your approval.* Go post in Actual Play.

Best,
Ron

* with the proviso that I do sorta appreciate it, so don't feel bad or anything

Haha! *points*

I'd just enjoy it if I were you.  And by the way, I think this is a good idea too. :P
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Callan S. on August 02, 2005, 04:36:17 AM
Quote from: Ron Edwards on July 30, 2005, 12:46:49 AM
What's with all this approval?

Guys, it's not a democracy. If Clinton and I want to replace all your usernames with cruel versions of our own, we'll do it.
Now THAT'S a clarification of social contract! C'mon Ron, can't you leave the truth hidden, so we think it's a democracy, while really, as always, you will do as you wish?! I want some tyranny of structurelessness! ;) Okay, just a bit of fun to say thanks for the heads up and not letting us ascribe qualties that aren't there. Seriously, I'm glad you posted that.
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Joshua Patterson on August 02, 2005, 06:24:30 PM
Quote from: Ron Edwards on July 30, 2005, 04:37:58 AM
Child-friendly?

I said, animated pink kitties. Which is to say, they would be doing something.

Best,
Ron

Everytime I read that phrase, I sooooo do not read it as "kitties".  Anyone else having the same problem?
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Andrew Cooper on August 02, 2005, 07:00:37 PM
QuoteEverytime I read that phrase, I sooooo do not read it as "kitties".  Anyone else having the same problem?

I wasn't until you brought it up, damn it!  Stop that!
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Eve on August 03, 2005, 08:50:27 PM
Well, to add a proposal: I would like to have the max width of text-areas limited, to make reading easier at higher resolutions.

What about a poll on the optimal width? ;) (I'd prefer something like 700px with this fontsize)


Eva
Title: Re: Changes to the Forge
Post by: Eero Tuovinen on August 03, 2005, 11:18:09 PM
Eva: try resizing your browser window.