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Title: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: Nathan P. on September 28, 2005, 03:56:34 PM
First Half:

...I'm not gonna lie, I think  this  (http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=4004424&postcount=101) is really funny.

Second Half:

I had an interesting conversation last week when my group was deciding which of my indie game collection to play. One guy seemed really interested in Dogs (was flipping through it and reading the intro stuff and such), but the other responded pretty negatively, saying that he's just not interested in religion - not exploring it, not addressing it or challenging it, nothin. Which is fine, and we ended up deciding to play PtA. But it made me wonder about how much one could divorce Dogs from its religious context and have it still be Dogs.

My inclination, from seeing other threads here, is that as long as whatever replaces religion has the same meaning in the context of the setting (Vincent expressed this meaning perfectely in some post that I can't find now), it's all gravy. But the "whatever replaces religion" is a sticking point for me, as I think that the concept is hard to duplicate. That is, what other concepts/ideas/whatever out there are true replacements for religion in Dogs, as opposed to a "religion by any other name"?

Or, y'know, point me to threads that deal with this already. Really, I just want everyone to see that picture up top!
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: lumpley on September 28, 2005, 04:23:59 PM
First half: ha! That's awesome. Thanks Nathan, I'd'a missed it!

Second half: here's what I've said on the subject recently: Re: Dogs in the Black: brainstormin' required (http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/index.php?topic=16313.msg173552#msg173552). Start there and read down at least a couple posts.

-Vincent
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: Judaicdiablo on September 28, 2005, 09:32:22 PM
Its a bit self serving (I admit) but here is a great (IMO) alternate Ceremony List.

http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/index.php?topic=16938.0

--Brandon
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: John Burdick on September 29, 2005, 06:17:42 AM
Vincent,

Reading the linked discussion, I'm struck by how vividly the movie Serenity highlights everything you said about Firefly in that thread. Wow.

John
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: Nathan P. on September 29, 2005, 03:44:48 PM
Word. Thats what I was looking for, thanks Vincent!

You should release an alternate edition of Dogs with that cover, I think it has a broad appeal...
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: Vaxalon on September 30, 2005, 05:11:19 PM
Did the Frontier LDS have the kind of circuit riders we're talking about?
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: lumpley on September 30, 2005, 05:52:22 PM
No.

-Vincent
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: Vaxalon on September 30, 2005, 06:01:00 PM
Well, then, that kind of clinches it... if the central, core characters of DitV have no real-world analogue, then it really isn't "about" Mormons.  Not that I ever thought so.

I would have titled it "It's about God" because it's really hard to play DitV and NOT address issues of faith and authority.
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: IMAGinES on October 09, 2005, 05:40:58 AM
Sort of sneaking back to the first half quickly, has anyone seen this (http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=4711319&postcount=361)?

Or this (http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=4714913&postcount=362) and this (http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=4715192&postcount=366)?

Or, better yet, THIS?!? (http://forum.rpg.net/showpost.php?p=4715780&postcount=370)
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: Vaxalon on October 09, 2005, 03:52:09 PM
Hah!  Thanks!  Those are great.
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: Vaxalon on October 09, 2005, 03:53:12 PM
Rereading the thread, I'm surprised noone has mentioned Jedi yet.
Title: Re: [DitV] Half and half
Post by: Particle_Man on October 11, 2005, 03:53:56 PM
There was talk of a "Captain Kirk" style Dogs.  I mean, you go from planet to planet, solving problems by interpreting the Prime Directive.