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Title: PM Spam
Post by: master dwarf on July 31, 2006, 04:00:52 PM
I just got spammed via the private message feature of the forums.  User: Don Johnson.  Anybody else encounter this?  Could somebody look into this and squash it?
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Kicker on July 31, 2006, 04:03:09 PM
Ditto from same.  NSFW, lots of exclamation marks.  I was trying to figure out how to report or forward the message to the appropriate folk, but if I can just me-too it, that saves me some work.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Claudia Cangini on July 31, 2006, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: master dwarf on July 31, 2006, 04:00:52 PM
I just got spammed via the private message feature of the forums.  User: Don Johnson.  Anybody else encounter this?  Could somebody look into this and squash it?

just happened the same to me.
I doubt we are alone in this...
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Jo on July 31, 2006, 04:08:30 PM
Yes. I need new retinas now.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: signoftheserpent on July 31, 2006, 04:10:51 PM
Quote from: Jo on July 31, 2006, 04:08:30 PM
Yes. I need new retinas now.

Ditto. I PM'd Mr Edwards as well. Not sure how things like this happened, but then i don't excel in spam and pornography. My loss I guess.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: ricmadeira on July 31, 2006, 04:29:16 PM
Got spammed by Don Johnson too.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Claudia Cangini on July 31, 2006, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: ricmadeira on July 31, 2006, 04:29:16 PM
Got spammed by Don Johnson too.

Guys, I think Admins got the message by now...
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Gasten on July 31, 2006, 04:54:07 PM
The wierd thing is, He can't be bot, can he? He have posted one "good" post on the forum. It's probably som kind of hacking-thing that have guessed his password, or some virus that are ... I dunno.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: J-MK on July 31, 2006, 04:59:00 PM
I got this too. My poor eyes are still bleeding...
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Hawk on July 31, 2006, 05:42:44 PM
It's a bot. It's already struck two other forums that I go to. I'm just hoping that I'm not the subject to some kind of malware that causes this to happen... I've scanned multiple times and nothing shows up, but still...
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Hawk on July 31, 2006, 05:44:42 PM
Sorry. There's no edit button.

The reasoning behind me saying that it's a bot.

On the second forum, it mass-PM'd two messages to every user. It then proceeded to reply to every topic and post a new topic under the same name as the ones it replied to with the exact same message. My advice is to IP-ban the sucker before it gets that far.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: drozdal on July 31, 2006, 06:24:11 PM
This is indeed the year of c**k in RPG's.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Clinton R. Nixon on July 31, 2006, 07:42:10 PM
I banned this guy right afterwards this morning. My apologies  to all of you who had to see this.

- Clinton
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: thwaak on July 31, 2006, 07:52:31 PM
Quote from: Clinton R. Nixon on July 31, 2006, 07:42:10 PM
I banned this guy right afterwards this morning. My apologies  to all of you who had to see this.

- Clinton

The interesting thing is...the one post (about Heist) he made outside of the spamming was a rather interesting concept for a game and seemed authentic. Any chance his account was hi-jacked somehow?
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Hawk on July 31, 2006, 10:21:26 PM
In my mind, no. There were two other times that this happened, as I said in my previous post. The account was created. That same day, it spammed PMs.

Also, I did a search for "Heist". There were two games in the first page that have that name. One is very similar to that account's post.

Wouldn't a human have to create an account in the first place? There are all of the safeguards to prevent bots, like the misshapen characters that a new account is required to reenter when registering.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Silmenume on July 31, 2006, 10:24:58 PM
Thank you Clinton for taking care of this problem so quickly!
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Lord Shield on August 01, 2006, 12:17:11 AM
Cheers for clearing it, Clinton. The plus side is that the email I got telling me had a PM reminded me of this site that I have neglected for some time!
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: David Johansen on August 01, 2006, 06:28:56 AM
Got one here too.  Got the E-mail too.  I keep thinking there must be something funny to say about the content but all I can come up with is that it's a picture of a very small man...
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: greyorm on August 01, 2006, 07:27:34 AM
Quote from: David Johansen on August 01, 2006, 06:28:56 AM...all I can come up with is that it's a picture of a very small man...

*Cough*Choke*Sputter*Sides Hurt*
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Gasten on August 01, 2006, 09:18:12 AM
Quote from: Hawk on July 31, 2006, 10:21:26 PM
Wouldn't a human have to create an account in the first place? There are all of the safeguards to prevent bots, like the misshapen characters that a new account is required to reenter when registering.

No, it don't have to be. There is bots who can evade those type-stuff-from-the-picture-thingies. And who can click on links in emails. Thou, it's pretty hard to create.

But I can't understand that Heist-post... I don't know how much it's altered from the one it copied/pasted, but if it's just some words the bot could easily change them with a synonym-list. Otherwise I don't know. (and why? because he want us to ask these questions before we ban him, giving him more time)

Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Thunder_God on August 01, 2006, 09:46:46 AM
I wonder how come I didn't get the PM-notification-email, but damn, that gotta hurt.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: droog on August 01, 2006, 11:02:15 AM
Quote from: Clinton R. Nixon on July 31, 2006, 07:42:10 PM
I banned this guy right afterwards this morning. My apologies  to all of you who had to see this.
No need for apologies, Clinton darling. That man was divine!
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Ron Edwards on August 01, 2006, 01:20:13 PM
All right folks, I think we've given the spammer as much attention as we need to.

More "me too" posts and so on aren't needed; it appears that just about everyone got hit.

Best, Ron
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Jonny Nexus on August 01, 2006, 04:24:24 PM
Quote from: Thunder_God on August 01, 2006, 09:46:46 AM
I wonder how come I didn't get the PM-notification-email,

I did.

Quotebut damn, that gotta hurt.

It did.

Worst. Spam. Ever.

Let's just say - as someone who read the PM and scrolled down to the bottom of the message - that I'm damn glad that I have my own private office at work.

Still, on a positive note, it did tempt me into coming to the Forge for the first time since I created my account, so it's not all bad.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Bardsandsages on August 02, 2006, 07:58:57 PM
If this was known about by the admins two days ago, why was it STILL in the inbox?  I haven't been here for a while, and just logged in a fwe minutes ago to see what was going on.  If admins knew everyone got the spam, why wasn't it deleted already?  I shouldn't have still been in the inboxes two days later.
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Eve on August 03, 2006, 08:52:54 AM
Quote from: Bardsandsages on August 02, 2006, 07:58:57 PM
If this was known about by the admins two days ago, why was it STILL in the inbox?  I haven't been here for a while, and just logged in a fwe minutes ago to see what was going on.  If admins knew everyone got the spam, why wasn't it deleted already?  I shouldn't have still been in the inboxes two days later.

Can you imagine going through all mailboxes here just to check the pm's - would take them ages. Or go scripting and destroy this message everywhere in the database... Come on.. they are normal people too, having a life and such. And besides: it takes more than a bit of bad photoshopwork to knock me down.
Title: Porn in my PM
Post by: epweissengruber on August 03, 2006, 04:59:44 PM
I seem to be getting spammed by someone called "Don Johnson," who is sending pictures of a naked man with a huge, albeitbadly Photoshopped ,penis.

Is anyone else getting this or is someone playing  a personal gag on me?
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Bardsandsages on August 03, 2006, 08:26:52 PM
Quote from: Eva Deinum on August 03, 2006, 08:52:54 AM
Quote from: Bardsandsages on August 02, 2006, 07:58:57 PM
If this was known about by the admins two days ago, why was it STILL in the inbox?  I haven't been here for a while, and just logged in a fwe minutes ago to see what was going on.  If admins knew everyone got the spam, why wasn't it deleted already?  I shouldn't have still been in the inboxes two days later.

Can you imagine going through all mailboxes here just to check the pm's - would take them ages. Or go scripting and destroy this message everywhere in the database... Come on.. they are normal people too, having a life and such. And besides: it takes more than a bit of bad photoshopwork to knock me down.

I can't imagine going through and deleting all of them. But then again I can't imagine having to perform open heart surgery either.  That doesn't mean the doctor can use the difficulty of his job as an excuse not to do it.  And as far as those I know who do coding for sites tell me, it should have been a small matter of coding to automatically delete all of the guilty party's pornographic messages from the user inboxes. 

Maybe this is all funny to some folks, but I check my e-mail on break while at work.  And unlike someone else who brought up the subject, I don't have a private office.  So unfortunately I have to take this a little more seriously.  Because if the wrong person walked by my desk at the wrong time, I could have been fired.  *my employer is very lax regarding using the computer for personal use while on breaks, but very strict regarding using it for pornography.*

And again, I ask the question...why is this still in people's inboxes now THREE days removed from the site being made aware of it?
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Bankuei on August 03, 2006, 08:38:44 PM
Hi Bards...

Perhaps because the Forge is a completely FREE forum service provided by two people with lives outside of simply running the boards? 

If your employer is so lacking in understanding that explaining that a site which is normally free of porn got spammed, then perhaps you shouldn't use the internet at work, or disable images... the internet is a loaded roulette wheel of porn, and frankly, it's really hard NOT to stumble upon it.

Maybe everyone could read back a few posts and actually READ what Ron requested- Clinton and him are aware of the problem and looking into preventing it from happening again.  More people saying, "I got spammed TOO!" isn't going to get it fixed any quicker than pushing the button for an elevator 100 times makes it arrive faster.

Chris
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Bardsandsages on August 04, 2006, 01:49:45 PM
QuotePerhaps because the Forge is a completely FREE forum service provided by two people with lives outside of simply running the boards? 

I frequent a lot of free forums.  I've never had the problem.  I'm a mod at one.  I know code can be written relatively quickly to delete such things.  I've seen it done.  Don't know how to do it myself, but I know those that do.  So I'm not just talking for the point of talking.  I'm talking from experience dealing with other forums. 

Quotethe internet is a loaded roulette wheel of porn, and frankly, it's really hard NOT to stumble upon it.

And this is the first time in years I've "stumbled" upon any.  And I use the internet for everything.  Shopping.  Paying bills.  Running my own business.  Research.  Harassing forum owners.  Maybe I'm just a more savvy a user than most and therefore don't normally have this issue.

Sure, I accept and understand the fact that it happens.  You can't predict when some troll is gonna do something stupid.   My point is, once you are aware of it, you get rid of it.  Three days after the fact the stuff is still there, I see as a problem.   Just my not-so-humble-opinion. 
Title: Re: PM Spam
Post by: Clinton R. Nixon on August 04, 2006, 02:33:42 PM
Julie,

Hey, you're right - I probably should have taken action to delete it for you. My apologies. Honestly, I never saw the picture. It was below the fold, and was recognizable as spam before I scrolled down, so I deleted it without looking at it.

With that said, this is not a place to tell Ron or I what we should or shouldn't do, so let's close this thread.