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Title: Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?
Post by: Shadeling on November 07, 2002, 01:24:44 AM
I mean it lists it under each proficiency, I was just curious for them though?

Side note, the long-curved Daggers that Krymeans use...would they just be a Rondel variation?
Title: Re: Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?
Post by: Irmo on November 07, 2002, 01:51:38 AM
Quote from: ShadelingI mean it lists it under each proficiency, I was just curious for them though?

Side note, the long-curved Daggers that Krymeans use...would they just be a Rondel variation?

I'd consider sword and shield as the more likely parallel, since such sabres don't exactly suggest use in the thrust. As for the daggers, they are actually quite tricky, since the curvature also suggest they are used for slicing rather than stabbing....Jake?
Title: Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?
Post by: Shadeling on November 07, 2002, 04:56:16 AM
Any rulings Jake?
Title: Re: Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?
Post by: Bob Richter on November 07, 2002, 06:20:00 AM
Quote from: ShadelingI mean it lists it under each proficiency, I was just curious for them though?

Side note, the long-curved Daggers that Krymeans use...would they just be a Rondel variation?

Actually, they're both.

If you're using it with a shield in your off-hand, it's sword and shield.

If you're using it with a dagger, buckler, arming glove, etc. in your off-hand, it's cut & thrust.

I'd say probably a Rondel variation.
Title: Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?
Post by: Jake Norwood on November 07, 2002, 07:40:47 AM
I would take whatever makes the most sense for what you're doing. In Krym Khanan, sword and shield makes the most sense to me. In Sarmatov, though, C&T does.

As for the curved daggers...use the dagger proficiency. As for stats...I'm not sure. Never really thought about it. Niether rondell or poniard stats will do, though. A kindjal (that's what that knife is called) would need its own stats for sure.

Jake
Title: Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?
Post by: Shadeling on November 07, 2002, 08:06:27 AM
Any idea for stats for the knife then? Maybe damage slightly better, but DTN worse?
Title: Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?
Post by: Jake Norwood on November 07, 2002, 08:07:54 AM
Off the top of my head, DTN like a rondell, better cut than a poniard, worst thrust than either...

But all of that should be a narrow margin, because I knife is still a knife. Maybe applying saber-like mods to it for armors would be appropriate as well.

Jake
Title: Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?
Post by: Shadeling on November 07, 2002, 08:23:55 AM
Something like:

Cut 7, Thrust 9, DTN 9 Damage Cut ST-2 (ST-3 soft armors, ST-4 metal)
Title: Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?
Post by: Lyrax on November 12, 2002, 07:17:12 PM
The damage should be at least ST-1, maybe even ST.  It's a cutting dagger, for crying out loud!
Title: Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?
Post by: Shadeling on November 13, 2002, 07:14:06 AM
Yeah, that sounds good. Thanks.