I was playing around with the combat simulator, and decided to try out a footman's pick (I'd had such fun taking Max Steele apart with a morning star, I just couldn't resist :-) ).
I found myself surprised that "thrust" was the only option, and that only the Thrusting zones were available for attack. I understand that a pick does piercing damage, but I imagined that the motion of attack would be more like a cut or a bash.
I may be making amountain out of a molehill, but this kind of throws me. So, I just wanted to ask the folks running and playing TROS -- have you had folks use picks? And have they been using the thrusting attack zones, or the cutting/bashing attack zones?
If the former, how did you describe the action in game? If the latter, how did you figure damage?
Thanks!
Quote from: Jim DelRossoI was playing around with the combat simulator, and decided to try out a footman's pick (I'd had such fun taking Max Steele apart with a morning star, I just couldn't resist :-) ).
I found myself surprised that "thrust" was the only option, and that only the Thrusting zones were available for attack. I understand that a pick does piercing damage, but I imagined that the motion of attack would be more like a cut or a bash.
I may be making amountain out of a molehill, but this kind of throws me. So, I just wanted to ask the folks running and playing TROS -- have you had folks use picks? And have they been using the thrusting attack zones, or the cutting/bashing attack zones?
If the former, how did you describe the action in game? If the latter, how did you figure damage?
Thanks!
You do swing with a footmans pick...so you aim for those zones...however, you use Puncturing damage tables (which there are ones that correspond to those zones).
Basically, I did it that way in the Sim because there's no puncture table for zones 1-7 :-) I agree that it seems more intuitive for a pick to use swing zones though.
On the other hand, if I swing at your head with a pick, that's really the same thing as thrusting at youir head. Ditto most other areas, it's really just the terminology "thrust" that irks me, but I couldn't be bothered renaming the button every time someone was using a pick.
Brian.
Thanks for the replies!
So, could you use the swing attack zones for everything right up until you roll the d6, and then -- once you've determined the exact point of impact -- find the appropriate row for that zone on the puncture charts?
Or is that needlessly complex?
Not really, because the puncture chart doesn't have entries for the swing zones. Swing cut goes 1-7 and thrust cut (i.e. puncture) goes 8-14 (then you have swing bash and thrust bash for the same zones).
You could do it the way you describe, but you would end up with slash/cut results instead of puncture ones (puncture tends to have less blood and more shock/damage IIRC).
Alternately, if you try to use the puncture tables with swing zones, you'll find they don't match exactly. Still, with some playing about it could work - it's worth a go if you really think it's worth the extra effort.
Brian.
Quote from: Brian LeybourneBasically, I did it that way in the Sim because there's no puncture table for zones 1-7 :-) I agree that it seems more intuitive for a pick to use swing zones though.
On the other hand, if I swing at your head with a pick, that's really the same thing as thrusting at youir head. Ditto most other areas, it's really just the terminology "thrust" that irks me, but I couldn't be bothered renaming the button every time someone was using a pick.
It will effect armor protection (shields in particular), tho a good GM (can't recall the TRoS term) can use common sense for this.