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Title: War pick
Post by: Darth Tang on February 14, 2003, 01:10:24 PM
I haven't been able to find an illustration of this in any of my books on period weapons. I'm extremely hesitant to include a weapon for which I've no reliable mental image, much less an illustration.

I was under the impression that the histroical term for 'war pick' or 'military pick' was simply another tern for a beaked war hammer, lucern hammer, or bec de corbin.

Any input?
Title: Re: War pick
Post by: Shadeling on February 14, 2003, 03:24:38 PM
Quote from: Darth TangI haven't been able to find an illustration of this in any of my books on period weapons. I'm extremely hesitant to include a weapon for which I've no reliable mental image, much less an illustration.

I was under the impression that the histroical term for 'war pick' or 'military pick' was simply another tern for a beaked war hammer, lucern hammer, or bec de corbin.

Any input?

Here is something I found:

http://www.ashokaarts.com/non-edged/no-zaghnal1.jpg

It is an Indian War Pick.
Title: War pick
Post by: Darth Tang on February 14, 2003, 05:21:40 PM
That's a good picture, but it looks like a war hammer to me.

I guess what I'm saying is, war hammer = war pick?
Title: War pick
Post by: Shadeling on February 14, 2003, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: Darth TangThat's a good picture, but it looks like a war hammer to me.

I guess what I'm saying is, war hammer = war pick?
I don't think so...warhammers had a heavier blunt end for doing their business...but here is a place that makes warhammers:

http://www.dopeydragon.com/pages/warham.html

I think one difference is the size of the shaft perhaps. Just some thoughts.
Title: War pick
Post by: Darth Tang on February 14, 2003, 05:53:31 PM
http://www.albionarmorers.com/axes/warhammer.htm

Here's a war hamer head from my favorite dealer. I'm going to buy it when I find a suitable handle (or they start offering it mounted, which they are leaning towards).

Is that a 'pick' or a hammer'?
Title: War pick
Post by: Shadeling on February 14, 2003, 06:36:20 PM
Quote from: Darth Tanghttp://www.albionarmorers.com/axes/warhammer.htm

Here's a war hamer head from my favorite dealer. I'm going to buy it when I find a suitable handle (or they start offering it mounted, which they are leaning towards).

Is that a 'pick' or a hammer'?

It is warhammer.

Historically Warhammers had a spike on one side and hammer on the other...a multipurpose weapon so to speak. Whereas picks really were just massive spikes (like that Indian one I posted).
Title: War pick
Post by: Irmo on February 14, 2003, 09:46:19 PM
How about this for a war pick. It's a drawing, but I think there's no mistaking it for a warhammer. As to how effective it would be, who knows...

http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=1388
Title: War pick
Post by: Shadeling on February 14, 2003, 09:59:45 PM
Quote from: IrmoHow about this for a war pick. It's a drawing, but I think there's no mistaking it for a warhammer. As to how effective it would be, who knows...

http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=1388

Actually that picture has a spike on each end...not very hammery if you ask me.
Title: War pick
Post by: Irmo on February 15, 2003, 05:51:47 PM
Quote from: Shadeling
Quote from: IrmoHow about this for a war pick. It's a drawing, but I think there's no mistaking it for a warhammer. As to how effective it would be, who knows...

http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=1388

Actually that picture has a spike on each end...not very hammery if you ask me.

Which is why I said there's no mistaking it for a warhammer.
Title: War pick
Post by: Shadeling on February 15, 2003, 08:11:10 PM
Quote from: Irmo
Quote from: Shadeling
Quote from: IrmoHow about this for a war pick. It's a drawing, but I think there's no mistaking it for a warhammer. As to how effective it would be, who knows...

http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=1388

Actually that picture has a spike on each end...not very hammery if you ask me.

Which is why I said there's no mistaking it for a warhammer.

Sorry I mis-read what you said.
Title: War Pick.
Post by: Salamander on February 17, 2003, 11:31:40 AM
I don't have an image, but if I recall correctly the warpick was just a lighter pick axe that had been sharpened while the handle was lengthened and reinforced with metal bands. It was originally a peasant's weapon, but when the nobility saw how well it dealt with mail, they adopted the design for their own uses in the form of the mounted or horseman's pick.