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Title: Convenient Resource on Japanese Feudalism
Post by: M. J. Young on August 18, 2003, 12:30:14 AM
I'm creating a game world that's going to borrow heavily on Japanese feudalism for both color and structure, and I need something more than just OAD&D Oriental Adventures to provide me with this. It's focused mainly on Ninja and Samurai, but I need something of the hierarchy and titles to provide the structure for an empire.

I'd rather find something fairly light and easy to read that's available on the web, but I'll take what I can get.

Any help with this?

Thanks.

--M. J. Young
Title: Convenient Resource on Japanese Feudalism
Post by: Andrew Martin on August 18, 2003, 09:06:53 AM
Sengoku could be very useful here. It was written by people who were very much into Japanese history.
Title: Convenient Resource on Japanese Feudalism
Post by: Valamir on August 18, 2003, 02:47:59 PM
Heh.  Yeah, but Sengoku fails the "light and easy to read" test pretty profoundly.

There is this thread (http://www.indie-rpgs.com/viewtopic.php?t=7540) down in the TROS forum that you might find of interest.

I don't know that there's any specific references to what you're looking for but there are a bunch of people there who seem to be familiar with the period who could probably point you in the right direction.
Title: Convenient Resource on Japanese Feudalism
Post by: Paganini on August 18, 2003, 03:09:25 PM
M. J., IME it's hard to find good Japanese historical material. I did a fairly extensive search a year or so ago, and all the books I found were either extremely expensive, out of print, or on a very specific subject.

Strange as it may seem, the manual that comes with Shogun: Total War - Warlord Edition is actually a very nice concise overview of Japanese feudal history. You should be able to get it (and a bunch of other interesting stuff) at this page: http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/faq.shtml

(BTW, the Shogun game itself is very nice as far as historical accuracy and atmospheric depiction. There were many bugs with the first release, but the Warlord Edition (and / or the patch) fixed them all. You can probably find it for under $10 (I got mine for $9.95) in the bargain bin at Wal Mart, or on Chips & Bits, frex.
Title: Convenient Resource on Japanese Feudalism
Post by: Valamir on August 18, 2003, 03:20:13 PM
BTW:  I did just notice that Sengoku Revised is now available as PDF from RPG.Now for about $5.  For that price might not be a bad place to start afterall.
Title: Convenient Resource on Japanese Feudalism
Post by: M. J. Young on August 20, 2003, 05:23:29 AM
Thanks to all.  I found some resources that seem to do the job; it is in some ways much simpler than I imagined, and in some ways more complex, but I think I've got enough for the scenario now.

--M. J. Young
Title: Convenient Resource on Japanese Feudalism
Post by: Jack Aidley on August 20, 2003, 03:20:48 PM
Depending on what exactly you are looking for you may find the Hagakure, and The Book Of Five Rings useful. Cheap, and interesting too.

Probably too late now, though.
Title: Convenient Resource on Japanese Feudalism
Post by: quozl on August 20, 2003, 04:49:52 PM
Quote from: M. J. YoungThanks to all.  I found some resources that seem to do the job; it is in some ways much simpler than I imagined, and in some ways more complex, but I think I've got enough for the scenario now.

--M. J. Young

So what did you find?  Inquiring minds want to know!
Title: Convenient Resource on Japanese Feudalism
Post by: M. J. Young on August 21, 2003, 02:55:08 AM
What did I find? Hmmm....