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Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Peter Nordstrand on February 04, 2004, 08:27:34 PM
Hi,

It is impossible for me to shut up any longer. In order not to point my finger at anyone in particular, I made it a new topic.

Folks, when you talk about "gloranthan cannon" it is complete and utter nonsense. It is canon with one n, which has nothing to do with gunpower and big projectiles.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=canon

This thread is now closed. No, shut up. Closed I say! ;-)

/Peter Nordstrand
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Brand_Robins on February 04, 2004, 08:34:23 PM
So you're saying that a Gloranthan cannon isn't in Gloranthan canon? What about the canons in Sheshnella, is it canon for those canons to have cannons? Can the canons in canon can-can?
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Mac Logo on February 04, 2004, 11:12:37 PM
Quote from: Brand_RobinsSo you're saying that a Gloranthan cannon isn't in Gloranthan canon? What about the canons in Sheshnella, is it canon for those canons to have cannons? Can the canons in canon can-can?

There are no Canons in "Sheshnella" because the canonical form of the name is "Seshnela", and they don't have any cannons anyway.

There are Gloranthan Cannons, but the Mostali own them all.

Cheers

Graeme

P.S. I agree with Peter.
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: RaconteurX on February 05, 2004, 12:44:43 AM
And what about the Dwarf's Cannon Cult? Them cannon canons is canon... :)
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Brand_Robins on February 05, 2004, 05:47:58 AM
Quote from: Mac LogoThere are no Canons in "Sheshnella" because the canonical form of the name is "Seshnela", and they don't have any cannons anyway.

Okay, no Seshnela cannons -- but what about Seshnelan canons?
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Mac Logo on February 05, 2004, 08:51:01 AM
Quote from: Brand_Robins
Quote from: Mac LogoThere are no Canons in "Sheshnella" because the canonical form of the name is "Seshnela", and they don't have any cannons anyway.

Okay, no Seshnela cannons -- but what about Seshnelan canons?

Ummm, let's see.

The Abiding Book - Authorised Version as revealed to the Prophet Rokar.
The Theoblanc Papers - The writings of the current Ecclesiarch of the Rokari Church.

Those are considered Canon in Seshnela. There is pressure for all Orders and other religious organisations to fall under the wing of the Rokari Church, so I'd guess that not much else is held as "canon" by Church and State. This is all in the HQ rulebook.

As to the other type of Canon - a clergyman belonging to the chapter or the staff of a cathedral or collegiate church (thankyou Webster's Online), there must obviously be people of such status - just to support the Bless Congregation rituals at the large Cathedrals - but I've never actually seen the term used itself. I'd go with a "probably" and ask on the Digest, paying most atttention to Trotsky (Jamie Revell) as he's the chap doing the Western stuff for Issaries.

There is a shocking lack of cameras, photocopiers and inkjet or laser printers - none are mentioned in the sources I have - so I would guess that the final type of Canon is very likely absent. :)

Just trying to be a helpful, little Gloranthaphile.

Cheers,

Graeme

P.S. The Dwarf of Dwarf Run has been known to "hire out" the Cannon Cult - Dragon Pass:LoT

G:)
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: pete_darby on February 05, 2004, 11:41:57 AM
Well, there were rumours of the Rokari Canon Cannon, using remnant God Learner devices to launch clergy at the opposition, but it met with resistance from the upper orders of the church...
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: soru on February 05, 2004, 01:39:44 PM
Quote from: pete_darbyWell, there were rumours of the Rokari Canon Cannon, using remnant God Learner devices to launch clergy at the opposition, but it met with resistance from the upper orders of the church...

So, the use of the Rokari Canon Cannon is not canon.

soru
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Scripty on February 05, 2004, 02:37:13 PM
Hey!

MGMV!

The Durulz have been shooting themselves out of canons in my Glorantha for decades.

I call it the Cult of the Flaming Ducks.

scott
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Brand_Robins on February 05, 2004, 02:50:50 PM
Quote from: ScriptyHey!

MGMV!

The Durulz have been shooting themselves out of canons in my Glorantha for decades.

I call it the Cult of the Flaming Ducks.

scott

Um.

Do you mean cannons?

Cause if they've been shooting themselves out of monks, I don't wanna know about it.

;)
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Ron Edwards on February 05, 2004, 06:03:49 PM
Oh God, usually I would close a thread like this, but I can't bring myself to do it.

Cannon on, my friends ... in this thread alone, though.

Best,
Ron
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: RaconteurX on February 05, 2004, 06:53:54 PM
Quote from: ScriptyThe Durulz have been shooting themselves out of canons in my Glorantha for decades.

Shades of the chest-burster scene from Alien!
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Mike Holmes on February 06, 2004, 12:30:34 AM
LMFAO

You have to understand, guys; I'm a Roman Catholic Artilleryman (no, really). This all has very special meaning to me. :-)

Mike
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Mac Logo on February 06, 2004, 05:55:44 AM
Quote from: Mike HolmesLMFAO

You have to understand, guys; I'm a Roman Catholic Artilleryman (no, really). This all has very special meaning to me. :-)

Mike
"Oh Lord. Bless this canon, thy Holy Artillery Piece, that it's explosive emission may cause thy foe to quack up, in hysterical laughter..."

Is a duck fired from a canon count as a guided, or misguided missile?
Is it a smart munition?
Is the canon a one-shot launcher, or is it [shudder] reloadable?

Sorry.

On a slightly (ahem) more serious note, I'm intrigued by the notion of voluntary durulz artillery rounds. Why?

Cheers

Graeme
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Blankshield on February 06, 2004, 07:40:25 AM
Quote from: Ron EdwardsOh God, usually I would close a thread like this, but I can't bring myself to do it.

Cannon on, my friends ... in this thread alone, though.

Best,
Ron

Does this mean that the Gloranthan cannon canon is canon?

James
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: simon_hibbs on February 06, 2004, 10:39:59 AM
Quote from: Blankshield

Does this mean that the Gloranthan cannon canon is canon?

Yes, but I think this whole thread is cannoning off in the wrong direction.


Simon
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: RaconteurX on February 07, 2004, 09:26:01 AM
Quote from: ScriptyThe Durulz have been shooting themselves out of canons in my Glorantha for decades.

Makes you wonder about the Gloranthan origin of the cry "Duck!" as a warning against incoming projectiles. It's not as quacked... er... cracked a theory as it appears at the surface. :)

All this begs the questions: Can non-canons be canonical? Can non-cannons? Can either be cannonical as well as canonical? Can on-canon cannons be considered self-propelled artillery? Can on-cannon canons be considered self-propelled itinerants?
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: HMT on February 07, 2004, 08:00:05 PM
I disagree with the original post. The letter n appears twice in canon, once in the middle and once at the end.
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Peter Nordstrand on February 07, 2004, 09:12:15 PM
Somebody please put me out of my misery!
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Mac Logo on February 08, 2004, 12:19:24 AM
Quote from: Peter NordstrandSomebody please put me out of my misery!
Peter...

[pauses until Peter looks around]

BANG! QuaaaaaaaackSPLAT!

Are you dead yet? Or did you duck.

/reloads canon...

:)

Graeme
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Scripty on February 08, 2004, 03:25:47 PM
LOL!
I didn't think we'd get much mileage out of the duck-cannon. Suffice to say, I think it now qualifies as canon.

Have I mentioned (borrowing a bit from Hex Games here) the Seshnelan Cathedralpult? It is canon, though not a cannon. And, although, it doesn't involve the ducks, it is frequently filled with communal worshippers when launched at approaching armies...

Scott
Title: Ducks as missiles
Post by: Jane on February 09, 2004, 07:08:37 AM
Oh no... let's hope one of my players in particular never sees this. Yes, he plays a Duck. He has been thrown into fights, while drunk. After that, he *asked* to be thrown into fights.. :(
Title: Re: Ducks as missiles
Post by: Mac Logo on February 09, 2004, 07:53:43 AM
Quote from: JaneOh no... let's hope one of my players in particular never sees this. Yes, he plays a Duck. He has been thrown into fights, while drunk. After that, he *asked* to be thrown into fights.. :(
Oh no... Jane, you have just radically altered the way I shall look at the LoTR films from now on.

"Nobody tosses a ... Duck!"
The pain...

:)

Graeme
Title: Tossing ducks
Post by: Jane on February 09, 2004, 07:56:52 AM
And he was doing this long before the film came out :(

He reckons it's as close as he's ever going to get to flying.
Title: I cannot stay quiet: One n in canon
Post by: Mac Logo on February 09, 2004, 08:19:52 AM
Quote from: HMTI disagree with the original post. The letter n appears twice in canon, once in the middle and once at the end.
As Peter said -  only 1 "n" in "canon". The other one is at the end of "canon".

:)

Graeme -  proudly driving reasonable people to Pedanticide for nearly 4 decades