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So, I never got a chance to run it at GenCon, but I so want to soon run BTI in alternate settings:
An Elf and Human go on dates in Rivendell
A Klingon science officer and Vulcan security staff go on three dates on Starbase Frontier's End
A series of dates that take place in The Matrix
28 Days Later... dodge zombies, stay alive, look for human nookie!
Two samurai from opposing clans go out on a series of recon missions to evaluate the menace of a third clan
Any other thoughts for BTI set in non-standard worlds?
My top three:
Astro City (there's a great comic mini-series about the dates of the two most powerful superheroes)
Chasing Amy
James Bond-esque super-spies
Hey Andy & Clint,
Woo-hoo! These are great. I can see the conflicts now:
A Klingon science officer and Vulcan security staff go on three dates on Starbase Frontier's End
Clash of the paradigms: the hot blooded Klingon falls for the Vulcan during her Pon Farr, but once the madness recedes she wants to go back to her emotionless ways...
28 Days Later... dodge zombies, stay alive, look for human nookie!
BRAINS! SEX! BRAINS!
Two samurai from opposing clans go out on a series of recon missions to evaluate the menace of a third clan
Clearly a bishonen love affair: loyalty to lord against respect and admiration that turns to love...
Astro City (there's a great comic mini-series about the dates of the two most powerful superheroes)
Both have "I've got to save the city!" as their conflict.
James Bond-esque super-spies
A la Tomorrow Never Dies--Michelle Yeoh & Pierce Brosnan tearing it up & falling in love.
Conflict="Super villain wants me dead"
Chasing Amy sounds more like Shooting the Moon to me, but that's still on the drawing board....
best,
Em
Over in Conquer the Horizon (http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/index.php?topic=16492.0) I was selling BtI as the perfect game for exploring a new country: one player plays the colonists (probably typified by one character, a la John Smith) and one player plays the land (probably typified by one character, a la Pocahontas).
All of the ideas for how players share in creating each character, how there are inherent conflicts to the colonists and new land forming a bond, and the establishment of common ground and attraction strike me as ideal for setting up this sort of story.
I probably ought to play it a few times as written first, of course.
Hiya,
Quote28 Days Later... dodge zombies, stay alive, look for human nookie!
BRAINS! SEX! BRAINS!
My first choice.
Best,
Ron
Astro City!! Hell yeah.
Also: Top Gun. C'mon... you can see it.
The Office - conflict, we're surrounded by people and on camera all the time
Aeon Flux
Sweet Dreams - Monsters and secret agents working for rival high school cliques. At last, it really will be all about the romance!
Buddy Movie - Those two misfit cops can't solve the case until they learn to love each other. This dosen't even have to be a romantic couple (like Top Gun...)
Quote from: TonyLB on August 25, 2005, 03:54:23 PM
Over in Conquer the Horizon (http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/index.php?topic=16492.0) I was selling BtI as the perfect game for exploring a new country: one player plays the colonists (probably typified by one character, a la John Smith) and one player plays the land (probably typified by one character, a la Pocahontas).
On the plane ride home from GenCon, reading Breaking the Ice while watching Monster in Law (thankfully silent), it struck me that this system could handle any kind of relationship. From there that seed quickly found an idea I've been sitting on for years, about superbeings and their relationship with the world around them. More about that in my own thread.
Just reading this game was powerfully inspiring. I can't wait to play it. Thanks Emily!
Hi Allan!
Quote from: Allan on August 25, 2005, 07:23:12 PM
Buddy Movie - Those two misfit cops can't solve the case until they learn to love each other. This doesn't even have to be a romantic couple (like Top Gun...)
The Buddy Movie is perfect. It's the same arc, with practically the same conflict going on, but just no (direct) sex going on. Strong connections and possible homoerotic tensions to boot. Actually, the central conflict is flexible too--it could be estranged lovers, or siblings...
Quote from: TonyLB on August 25, 2005, 03:54:23 PM
Over in Conquer the Horizon (http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/index.php?topic=16492.0) I was selling BtI as the perfect game for exploring a new country: one player plays the colonists (probably typified by one character, a la John Smith) and one player plays the land (probably typified by one character, a la Pocahontas).
Tony, that is utterly beautiful. And tragic.
So much is at stake from the relationship going sour....
QuoteJust reading this game was powerfully inspiring. I can't wait to play it. Thanks Emily!
Thank you, Allan! I'll love to hear about your game of BtI, and can't wait to hear about what next comes from you...watch out world, Big Night (http://sweetdreams.acwpd.com/BN.html) is here & Sweet Dreams (http://sweetdreams.acwpd.com/index.html) is gonna knock your socks off!
very best,
Emily
Heh heh.
QuoteAlso: Top Gun. C'mon... you can see it.
Yes, I can. Between Tom Cruise's character and Val Kilmer's.
Don't tell me you didn't intend it that way, either.
Best,
Ron
That's exactly what I meant.
See also The Fast and the Furious.
I want to start out a Breaking the Ice game with "okay, so we both drank a lot last night, really groggy, hungover, turn around to see this strange person in bed."
Bonus points for "wrong" race / gender / ethnicity / religion in the partner.
yrs--
--Ben
Re: the 28 Days later romance - do you get a re-roll for hacking your partner to death with a machete when they've been infected?
The buddy movie got me thinking - how about a setting where the two individuals never meet? Aerial aces in the Great War, maybe? Rival snipers a la "Enemy at the Gates"? It seems antithetical but somehow do-able.
--Jason
It worked for Amelie, and Griffin and Sabine. And the book already mentions Ladyhawke. Lots of possibilities for lovers who never meet (except I guess all those ones eventually do meet.)
Rival snipers who fall in love with each other! That would be so cool! Yeah, lovers who never meet always has a lot of potential.
I can also see Fight Club as well. It works on so many levels... And what about The Princess Bride?
Quick! Sombody go out and do a 28 Days Later romance!
Kirk
I rather like to think in interesting conflicts. How about:
(Modern day) Paul owes $ 30 million to the triads and is chased by mean tattoed kung-fu-fighters. Sharon is a werewolf.
(Fantasy) Thadeon is the king-to-be, wandering the city in disguise to learn about his people. His marriage has long been arranged. Eolora the waitress is really an adept of the forbidden cult of the lizard god.
Steve Dick and Linda Belinda are porn stars working together. They start falling in love on the set...but still "Pirates of the Purple Pearl" wants to be finished. Go from there.
How about BtI for more than two? Start with two characters already having been out on a date once, then let others interfere. See who comes out a couple.
How about a novice becoming the bride of Christ. The dates are between her and a statue of the crucifixion in the chapel.
Also, between a mother and her as yet unborn child.
Can you also run it for the last 3 dates of a relationship, about parting on good terms?
Quote from: Kirk Mitchell on September 08, 2005, 03:29:24 AM
Rival snipers who fall in love with each other! That would be so cool!
I think it is funny that we've come up with all these macho ways to avoid the discomfort of the central tenet of BtI. Not saying thay wouldn't be fun, I'm just observing that they are probably an outgrowth of unease at the fundamentally simple and potentially scary romantic core.
--Jason
Agreed, but I still think it would be cool.
Kirk
A simple, yet beautiful conflict: Teenagers falling in love. Not like in the movies, but the real thing. You' re both 14 years old, and there's your own inscecurity, peer pressure and the general drag of adolescence to deal with. Come on, you know it can be excruciating.
Does anyone know the film "Fucking Amal"? It's exactly that, starring tow girls, one of which is quite the loud-mouthed queen of the recess ground, the other is the silent kid, who's just moved to the small twon of Amal. The beautiful thing about the movie is how it avoids the cliches of the coming out story, but makes a point of how the girls manage to resist the pressure to define what kind of relationship they "really" have for parents, teachers and peers. We're not actually sure, whether they are a couple at the end of the film, but they walk away hand in hand. Could be a touching BtI - setup, too...if you dare to go for that emotional core instead of the safe cliches.
Oh Man, Fucking Åmål is a great movie and a perfect BtI set-up. Good call.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0150662/
Quote(About FA) Plot Outline: Two teenage girls in small-town Sweden. Elin is beautiful, popular, and bored with life. Agnes is friendless, sad, and secretly in love with Elin.
Ready made traits & conflicts right in the movie pitch!
--Em
Quote from: JasperN. on September 09, 2005, 07:32:50 AM
Does anyone know the film "Fucking Amal"? It's exactly that, starring tow girls, one of which is quite the loud-mouthed queen of the recess ground, the other is the silent kid, who's just moved to the small twon of Amal. The beautiful thing about the movie is how it avoids the cliches of the coming out story, but makes a point of how the girls manage to resist the pressure to define what kind of relationship they "really" have for parents, teachers and peers. We're not actually sure, whether they are a couple at the end of the film, but they walk away hand in hand. Could be a touching BtI - setup, too...if you dare to go for that emotional core instead of the safe cliches.
It is a brilliant move.
Exactly the kind of truly human drama and romance that I think
Breaking the Ice is all about.