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Title: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Jonathan Walton on August 21, 2009, 03:47:05 PM
Game Chef 2009 will start on Monday, Aug 31.  This should allow folks to finish and submit whatever they're doing for Jake's contest.

The weekend before, Aug 29-30, I will release info about the structure of the contest, but not the ingredients or theme.

Game Chef 2009 will accept competed games on four different deadlines:

- Monday Sept 7 (one week later),
- Monday Sept 14 (two weeks later),
- Wednesday Sept 30 (the last day of the month), and
- right before the start of Game Chef 2010 (approx. one year later).

Participating chefs are encouraged to use these submission dates as milestones, interpreting them as they like (for example, I might do something like "basic playtest draft, revised draft, alpha, beta") and, furthermore, to resubmit games that have been significantly revised or improved between submission dates. Submitting games requires emailing me a link to a location where the game can be downloaded or purchased (yes, you can sell your GC games if you want, that's none of my business, though I don't necessarily suggest it, especially before the One Year deadline).

Note that, of course, you can just submit your game once and walk away.  There's no need to continue to develop a game that you may or may not be fully invested in, but some very vague structure will exist for those who do want to continue after the first week or two.

Cheers!  I will post more details on the structure of the contest and link to the new website as we get closer to the start date.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Jonathan Walton on August 30, 2009, 02:17:06 AM
Hey Folks,

The new website for Game Chef 2009 is now live, including details on how to participate in the social, community aspects of the challenge. The actual theme, ingredients, and submission guidelines will be posted late tomorrow night, when the contest gets fully under weigh, though there are some hints in the new site design.

http://gamechef.wordpress.com/

Enjoy and feel free to ask any questions here or, better yet, in the comments on the website where everyone can see them.

Best,
Jonathan
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Eero Tuovinen on August 30, 2009, 08:34:50 AM
You're putting a lot of work to this Jonathan, I for one appreciate it greatly. I especially like your history section. (Missing Little Game Chef from last spring, but perhaps it's not a real one?)

I'm also very excited of a new format, whether it sits well with me personally or not. On the one hand I'm happy with losing the extra forums (which basically seem to be too much of a hurdle for me when it comes to actually participating), on the other I'm not so sure about emphasizing long-term development in a competition that has always had its greatest strength in quick, innovative design. I hope you'll be making some noise when the secondary deadlines roll around, so as to encourage people to care about them. Could be that they'll work as a replacement for the judging, which I always found my favourite part of this contest.

A question: is it possible to give you a category on an existing blog instead of a whole new blog dedicated to this thing? I personally find it cluttersome to start a new blog for something as epheremal as this, however stupid that is with free bits and bytes. A personal aesthetic issue, that.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Jonathan Walton on August 30, 2009, 11:42:33 AM
Hey Eero,

Rethinking things again, a category on an existing blog does seem perfectly reasonable, since you can do category feeds now.  I'm a bit loathe to reintroduce that option, since a bunch of folks have already created new blogs and I do like the idea of Game Chef being something you start fresh on, not something that's simply an outgrowth of your existing stuff.  So here's the deal: since you asked specifically, sure, we can work something out.  However, I'd like to avoid that as a general rule, at least for this year.  We'll give this a try and, for next year, I'll consider doing the category thing as part of the general instructions.

Jonathan
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Ben Lehman on August 30, 2009, 11:46:57 AM
Is there any way to distinguish between a blog and a blog category anyway? I mean, if I just submit the feed for benlehman.livejournal.com/gamechef, doesn't that just look to the RSS reader like its own blog?

yrs--
--Ben
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Jonathan Walton on August 30, 2009, 11:55:28 AM
Yup. There's no way for the aggregator to tell, I don't think, aside from maybe labeling it with the blog that it originally came from. Which means that folks wandering around your blog after discovering it through Game Chef might be like "WTF, pictures of kittens?" but I don't imagine that'll be a huge problem.  Still, I was also hoping to not privilege folks with long-running blogs too much, since they already have readership and may not need additional eyes on their design process.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Jonathan Walton on August 30, 2009, 08:08:13 PM
The theme and ingredients are up.  So it's on like Donkey Kong.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Frank Tarcikowski on September 03, 2009, 07:02:24 AM
Fantastic! I am intrigued. Very well done indeed.

- Frank
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Tark on September 08, 2009, 02:47:13 AM
I've noticed the RSS feed on the game chef site has a bias against my blog.  As in it won't show up the posts on the feeds.  They seem to instead go straight to archives not even showing my post over the feed.  That's rather upsetting.

http://jtarkpalmerwritings.weebly.com/the-gamechef-blog.html
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Jonathan Walton on September 08, 2009, 11:42:01 AM
Hey Jonathan,

I honestly have no idea what's making your feed do that.  Here, for example, is its listing in the Combobulator:
http://plays-well.com/turk.png

...And that looks totally right to me, so I'm not sure why it's not aggregating your feed. Hmm.

Jonathan
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Tark on September 08, 2009, 04:59:56 PM
Im going to make one more post on my blog and if it fails to show up as compared to posts that ahve been there a full day without going away I'll switch to a wordpress blog and get this straightened out.  I find that I'm valuing the actual social aspect of the contest more then any kind of reward I can derive from it and I'd like not to miss out.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Tark on September 08, 2009, 11:43:46 PM
Okie dokie I've just put up a nice big post before bed.  If it doesn't look like it's feeding through the aggregator I'm going to chalk this up to the consequences of using Weebly's blog stuff and switch over to Wordpress to see if that helps.  I'll check back in the morning to see.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Paul Czege on September 08, 2009, 11:46:41 PM
Hey Jonathan,

I just put your feed through the feed validator at w3.org:

http://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjtarkpalmerwritings.weebly.com%2F1%2Ffeed

I'm far from an RSS expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Missing atom:link with rel="self" thing isn't problematic for the aggregator.

Paul
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Tark on September 08, 2009, 11:57:12 PM
Quote from: Paul Czege on September 08, 2009, 11:46:41 PM
Hey Jonathan,

I just put your feed through the feed validator at w3.org:

http://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fjtarkpalmerwritings.weebly.com%2F1%2Ffeed

I'm far from an RSS expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Missing atom:link with rel="self" thing isn't problematic for the aggregator.

Paul

Possibly, but I wouldn't have the first clue as how to fix it with Weeblys blog stuff as I'm using the free stuff and have next to no knowledge of HTML to begin with.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Paul Czege on September 09, 2009, 12:04:18 AM
I'm not familiar with Weebly. Is there a configuration option to specify your feed url?

Paul
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Tark on September 09, 2009, 12:29:26 AM
I might be able to fix it via the advanced settings under the design tab.  Lemme copy/paste what I'm seeing so you can tell me what I need to be doing.

QuoteTHIS IS THE HTML OF THE PAGE the first tab of th advanced setting.

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" 
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<head>
  <title>%%TITLE%%</title>
  <!--[if IE 7]>
      <style>
      p {
        line-height:20px;
        padding-bottom:0;
      }
      h1 {
        font-size:20px;
        font-weight:normal;
        color:#fff;
        padding-bottom:0;
      }
      h2 {
        font-size:16px;
        font-weight:normal;
        color:#999999;
        padding-bottom:0;
      }
      #navigation {
        float:left;
        background-color:#0a161b;
        width:948px;
        font-size:12px;
        color:#060e11;
        padding:16px 0px 0px 0px;
      }
      #navigation-links li {
        float:left;
        display:inline;
        font-size:1em;
        padding:0px 20px 10px 0px;
        border:1px solid red;
      }
    </style>
  <![endif]-->
</head>
<body>
  <div id="wrapper">
    <div id="sitename">%%TITLE%%</div>
    <div class="weebly_header"></div>
    <div id="navigation">%%MENU%%</div>
    <div id="content-wrapper">
      <div id="contents">
        %%CONTENT%%
      </div>
      <div id="footer">
        <div id="footer-contents">%%WEEBLYFOOTER%%<div>
      </div>
    </div>
  </div>
</body>
</html>

The next bit is a tab labeled CSS.

QuoteCSS

*|* {
  margin:0pt;
  padding:0pt;
}
body {
  background: transparent url(background.gif) repeat-x center top;
  background-color:#0d1216;
  font-family:Georgia,"times new roman",serif;
  font-size:13px;
  color:#4f7288;
  margin:0;
  padding:0;
}
p {
  line-height:1.5;
  padding-bottom:12px;
}
h1 {
  font-family:Georgia,"times new roman",serif;
  font-size:20px;
  font-weight:normal;
  color:#fff;
  line-height:1.5;
}
h2 {
  font-family:Georgia,"times new roman",serif;
  font-size:18px;
  font-weight:normal;
  color:#ffffff;
  line-height:1.5;
}
#wrapper {
  width:960px;
  margin:0pt auto;
}
#sitename {
  height:63px;
  width:960px;
  font-size:30px;
  color:#cccccc;
  font-weight:normal;
  padding-top:25px;
}
#content-wrapper {
  background:transparent url(content_background.jpg) repeat-x center top;
  float:left;
  width:960px;
  margin-top:9px;
  margin-right:0px;
  padding-bottom:25px;
}
#navigation {
  float:left;
  background-color:#0a161b;
  width:948px;
  font-size:12px;
  color:#060e11;
  padding:16px 0px 0 12px;
}
#navigation ul {
  float:left;
  padding:0 10px 0 0;
  margin-left:0;
}
#navigation li {
  float:left;
  display:inline;
  height:30px;
  font-size:1em;
  padding:0px 20px 6px 10px;
}
#navigation a:link  {
  color:#fff;
  text-decoration:none; 
}
#navigation a:hover  {
  color:#fff;
  text-decoration:none; 
}
#navigation a:visited  {
  color:#fff;
  text-decoration:none; 
}
#active a:link  {
  color:#63afde;
  text-decoration:none; 
}
#active a:hover {
  color:#63afde;
  text-decoration:none; 
}
#active a:visited {
  color:#63afde;
  text-decoration:none; 
}
a:link, a:hover, a:visited {
  color:#63afde;
  font-weight:normal;
  text-decoration:none;
}
.weebly_header {
  background:transparent url(%%HEADERIMG%%) no-repeat center top;
  float:left;
  width:960px;
  height:314px;
}
#contents {
  width:920px;
  min-height:500px;
  height:auto !important;
  height:500px;
  padding:20px;
}
#footer {
  float:left;
  width:960px;
  height:36px; 
  margin:20px 0 30px 0;
  background-color:#0c1c23;
}
#footer-contents {
  float:left;
  font-family:Georgia,"times new roman",serif;
  padding:11px 0px 0 20px;
  width:940px;
  height:28px;
}
input {
  background-color:#394c5b;
  border:1px solid #999;
  font-size:12px;
  color:#97c4e0;
}
textarea {
  background-color:#394c5b;
  border:1px solid #999;
  font-size:12px;
  color:#97c4e0;
}

div#commentArea div.blogCommentOwner {
  background: #323242;
  border: 1px solid #505060;
}


/****************************** flyout menus ******************************/

#weebly-menus .weebly-menu-wrap {
  z-index: 5000;
}

#weebly-menus .weebly-menu {
  padding: 0;
  margin: 0;
  list-style: none;
}

#weebly-menus .weebly-menu li {
  float: left;
  clear: left;
  width: 170px;
  text-align: left;
}

#weebly-menus .weebly-menu li a {
  position: relative;
  display: block;
  width: 100%;
  background: #2a3e4e;
  border-right: 1px solid #394c5b;
  border-left: 1px solid #394c5b;
  border-bottom: 1px solid #394c5b;
  text-decoration: none;
  font-size: 11px;
  font-weight: normal;
  line-height:1;
  padding:5px;
  color: #fff;
}

#weebly-menus .weebly-menu li a:hover {
  background: #2a3e4e;
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#weebly-menus span.weebly-menu-title {
  display: block;
  padding: 5px 10px;
}

#weebly-menus span.weebly-menu-more {
  background: transparent url(http://images.weebly.com/weebly/images/submenu_arrow.gif) no-repeat center top;
  display: block;
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  right: 5px;
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  font-family: Courier;
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}
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Tark on September 09, 2009, 12:32:41 AM
This appears to let me manipulate the thtmeme though I still can't find a way to directly manipulate the HTML of a specific page.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Tark on September 09, 2009, 12:43:37 AM
Digging further I found a drag option to allow me to add custom HTML to a page.  So what custom HTML should I add to get this thing rolling?
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Paul Czege on September 09, 2009, 01:04:32 AM
You don't need to make changes to the html of the blog. I dunno man. The recommendation of the w3 feed validator is that your feed xml should have something like the following in the channel section:

Quote<atom:link href="http://jtarkpalmerwritings.weebly.com/1/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />

But yours is an RSS feed, not an atom feed. And it's programmatically generated. So my hope would be that the Weebly software would be getting it right.

You need someone who understands RSS better than I do.

Paul
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Tark on September 09, 2009, 07:44:30 AM
That's ok gmails being a bitch today so let's open a hotmail and wordpress account and go to town.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Tark on September 09, 2009, 05:31:33 PM
*sigh* No way to get into my gmail account as of yet so, gonna have a new wordpress blog and stuff going by the weekend so I can get this show on the road already.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Jonathan Walton on September 09, 2009, 05:45:57 PM
Tark,

Take a deep breath.  This will all be okay.  Starting a game later than everybody else isn't a big deal.  I just added a couple new blogs to the feed yesterday.  You've got all the time in the world (at least until the end of the month).
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Jonathan Walton on September 10, 2009, 12:15:46 AM
The master list of Week One winners is up here (http://plays-well.com/masterlist.html), listing the 12 games that have been submitted so far and their medals in an easy-to-navigate chart.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: David Artman on September 10, 2009, 12:29:39 PM
Quote from: Jonathan Walton on September 10, 2009, 12:15:46 AM
The master list of Week One winners is up here (http://plays-well.com/masterlist.html), listing the 12 games that have been submitted so far and their medals in an easy-to-navigate chart.
Quick suggestion: Add ALT attributes to (at least) the top row of medals, so that when one hovers the mouse over, one can see what they mean. (I'll also note that ALT is technically a required tag, I suppose for accessibility or search engine spiders.)

Looks like it's already a success! Lots of traffic and talk, already a stack of games to read/plat/wish I could play.

Maybe I need to ponder the ingredients more.... (They sort of had me stumped, last week, and then Dragon*Con tore my brain out and I haven't thought much since.)
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Jonathan Walton on September 10, 2009, 05:55:01 PM
Good suggestion, David.  I actually did it with the TITLE tag, which seems to work for more browsers than ALT.
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: David Artman on September 11, 2009, 10:17:01 AM
Quote from: Jonathan Walton on September 10, 2009, 05:55:01 PMGood suggestion, David.  I actually did it with the TITLE tag, which seems to work for more browsers than ALT.
Yeah, I usually use both--I'm pretty sure WindowsEyes and other screen readers use the ALT tag; and having done a smidgen of search, I have no clue what "title" is supposed to do for IMG--it's a generic attribute, usable on all sorts of elements, so...?

Anyhow... all sorted, and much easier to review. (Heh... although now I sort of wish the ALT tag had a brief description in it for what some of the more esoteric medals like "networked". NOT a major problem... hmmm, but you could put an onmouseover event that changes the status bar text to the definition of a medal: it's simple JavaScript code that you can find all over the net. But, you know, it's all good--thanks for all you've already done!)
Title: Re: [Game Chef 2009] Mark Your Calendars for Aug 31
Post by: Tark on September 11, 2009, 05:59:02 PM
http://jmpalmersgamechefblog.wordpress.com/

Let's see if that works.