Krym-Khanan Sabres...Cut/Thrust, or Sword/Shield?

[Shadeling]

I mean it lists it under each proficiency, I was just curious for them though?

Side note, the long-curved Daggers that Krymeans use...would they just be a Rondel variation?

[Irmo]

I mean it lists it under each proficiency, I was just curious for them though?

Side note, the long-curved Daggers that Krymeans use...would they just be a Rondel variation?

I'd consider sword and shield as the more likely parallel, since such sabres don't exactly suggest use in the thrust. As for the daggers, they are actually quite tricky, since the curvature also suggest they are used for slicing rather than stabbing....Jake?

[Shadeling]

Any rulings Jake?

[Bob Richter]

I mean it lists it under each proficiency, I was just curious for them though?

Side note, the long-curved Daggers that Krymeans use...would they just be a Rondel variation?

Actually, they're both.

If you're using it with a shield in your off-hand, it's sword and shield.

If you're using it with a dagger, buckler, arming glove, etc. in your off-hand, it's cut & thrust.

I'd say probably a Rondel variation.

[Jake Norwood]

I would take whatever makes the most sense for what you're doing. In Krym Khanan, sword and shield makes the most sense to me. In Sarmatov, though, C&T does.

As for the curved daggers...use the dagger proficiency. As for stats...I'm not sure. Never really thought about it. Niether rondell or poniard stats will do, though. A kindjal (that's what that knife is called) would need its own stats for sure.

Jake

[Shadeling]

Any idea for stats for the knife then? Maybe damage slightly better, but DTN worse?

[Jake Norwood]

Off the top of my head, DTN like a rondell, better cut than a poniard, worst thrust than either...

But all of that should be a narrow margin, because I knife is still a knife. Maybe applying saber-like mods to it for armors would be appropriate as well.

Jake

[Shadeling]

Something like:

Cut 7, Thrust 9, DTN 9 Damage Cut ST-2 (ST-3 soft armors, ST-4 metal)

[Lyrax]

The damage should be at least ST-1, maybe even ST.  It's a cutting dagger, for crying out loud!

[Shadeling]

Yeah, that sounds good. Thanks.