Initial impressions

[Drifter Bob]

(can't view the clip as I'm at work)

Did he go for the legs at all?  Or am I thinking of arnis, rather than escrima?

He did go hi and low, for the legs as well as my arms, torso and head, but had a hard time hitting anything other than my shield rim, due largely to his reach disadvantage and my having a shield.  I don't know much of anything about either arnis or escrima so I can't tell you much about it.  He didn't have very many different guards with his sticks, and his technique seemed to emphasise movement, though he did parry pretty well.   While using the stick I think he got me twice on the forearm and once on the collar bone.  He did a little better when he gave up using the escrima sticks and switched to the WMA type padded weapons.

JR

[Mokkurkalfe]

Personally, I let the reflex roll be affected the same way a "to hit"-roll is affected by reach. Fast and simple.

How do you mean?  You apply a reach bonus or don't you?

DB

Whoops! Thread ran away while I wasn't watching. I meant that if a guy with a longsword throws red against a guy with a mace who also throws red, he will get one extra die on the reflex roll for having a longer weapon. It made sense to me...

[Jake Norwood]

Ah, so!  19 in a row?  Trying to sweeten the deal just a little?  And I thought TROS was making money hand over fist!  No number one student of the SLUM FU school would attempt such underhanded measures!  

The official deal is you win unless I get the first hit in 19 times out of 20, in any order.  I get my arming sword and buckler, you get a dagger no more than 16" long.   Not very fair but, after 15 or 20 rushes I'll be getting pretty tired so you might pull it off.  Of course, I'll not be pulling my swings, ARMA doctrine demands striking with intent with proper follow-through.... heh heh heh

If you win the bet, payment is redeemable Sunday night at Finn MacCools, the pub around the corner from my house ;)

Then maybe after you drink $50 worth of Guiness and a few belfast bombers we'll try again!  They keep a kern axe I made for them behind the bar!!!

JR

Ah, I misunderstood your challenge. I though if we did 20 bouts, you'd get the first hit in the first 19 of them. Still, we can probably do it your way...

You want an arming sword and a buckler, and I get a 16" dagger? That's blade, right? My Rondel is probably about 20", and I never use a knife shorter than 18". Plus, it so happens that an arming sword and a buckler is probably the toughest thing to beat with a knife.

Let's say I get my rondel and you get just the arming sword, but you only have to win 14 out of 15 matches. That'll give you a little more engergy.

Oh, and I take my winnin's in cash, thanks. :-D

Jake

[Drifter Bob]

You want an arming sword and a buckler, and I get a 16" dagger? That's blade, right? My Rondel is probably about 20", and I never use a knife shorter than 18".

A 20" knife is approaching a short sword, but thats ok.

Plus, it so happens that an arming sword and a buckler is probably the toughest thing to beat with a knife.

I may be fat and arrogant but I'm not stupid or rich. ;)

Let's say I get my rondel and you get just the arming sword, but you only have to win 14 out of 15 matches. That'll give you a little more engergy.

Hey, it really doesn't matter to me.  15 rounds will go pretty quick, I don't think there is going to be a lot of back and forth...

Oh, and I take my winnin's in cash, thanks. :-D
Jake

If you win, you'll get cash, I never said otherwise.  It will be laid down on the bar at Finn MacCools, with me and all my thirsty lads standing around.  Not that there will be any pressure to buy us drinks.  

If you lose, well, I guess I'll buy a round anyway.

JR

[Drifter Bob]

Oh, and I take my winnin's in cash, thanks. :-D

Jake

Unless of course, you don't drink?  If that's the case, how about we sweeten the deal, $50 cash anywhere any time you want, and if I win, I get a free copy of the TROS sourcebook, or TFOB, your choice.  How's them apples?

JR

[Jake Norwood]

It so happens that I don't drink, actually. Sounds fair.

Jake

[Drifter Bob]

It so happens that I don't drink, actually. Sounds fair.

Jake

Well, it's a date then!  I must say, I'm glad wer'e doing this with padded weapons and not real ones.  A deflated ego could be painful, but a deflated lung is a little worse!

JR

[Ingenious]

I'll put $20 on Jake. If these conditions are met:
A. I have the $20 after I get everything paid off.
B. If I actually go to the event which makes me -$70 for the ticket and who knows how much for gas money and a hotel room for a night.
...greedy ARMA so and so's. :-D

In other words.. the $20 will more realistically be reduced to 1 cent.
-Ingenious
TROS session tonight.. look for a recap later this week.

[Bill Cook]

I'm entertained by this.

Cory (Ingenious), now I know what you were referring to as the learning experience that taught you fatigue rules.

[Salamander]

How I wish I had the coin to get down there... I'd take Jake's drinks!!!

[Drifter Bob]

Of course, if I win, that really does settle the whole reach / range / rush issue once and for all, don't it?

Either way, I'll definately have another little video clip to post here for those of you who can't make it down here to the big easy.  You can supply your own booze.

JR

[Drifter Bob]

Maybe if we have time we can try a few different weapon combinations, dagger versus sword & shield, dagger versus longsword, dagger versus sword & dagger, dagger versus rapier, dagger versus spear and shield, polearm, flail, whatever.  That way we could possibly come up with some statistical information of some use to game designers, which weapon or combination of weapons is hardest to rush with a smaller weapon, that sort of thing.

JR