failed grapple leads to wrestling?

[svenlein]

in the newest edition page 62 the last line of Grapple says:
"A tie or failure leads to Wrestling, as per the Wrestling Proficiency"

Should this just say tie, or is tie and failure right.  It seems to me a failure should be just like any other miss.  Otherwise you can automaticly get into a wrestling match by declaring Grapple.

Scott

[Jake Norwood]

This is a good point to bring up. My hands-on experience is that if you try to grapple and fail one of two things happens--you get hit, or you end up on the ground. Perhaps it should be dependant on how many the defender had in his margin. Thoughts?

Jake

[svenlein]

if they dodge, then i think you should just miss, if they parry with a weapon, then use the parrying vs punch house rule.
http://www.geocities.com/sgalthof/houserules.html#parry_hand_with_sword

[Buzzy Bee]

I know, I know, I'm supposed to be workin' on all this wrestling stuff.  Just haven't had time.

Buzzy Bee
Former wrestler