Ethan's question: censorship & personal attacks

[Ron Edwards]

Hello,

In the recent thread regarding the Step On Up article, Ethan was intrigued by one of Brian's comments, and wrote:

I have no idea what Brian is talking about when he mentions censorship and personal attacks. Somebody wanna clue me in?

It's easy. Brian considers "admins at the Forge" (me, Clinton, or both; he varies) to have censored him. He also considers himself and others to have endured personal attacks, citing personal emails. I have been accused many times by him of lying about all of the above, as well as about other things.

Ethan, this thread needs more focus from you if it's to continue. Most specifically, it needs to be more than "Hey, some kind of gross internet war went down three years ago? Cool! Let's wallow in it!"

Everyone, please wait for Ethan before responding.

Best,
Ron

[ethan_greer]

Gosh, I almost missed this thread; I was away for the holiday weekend.

An Internet war, huh?  It seemed like he was talking about something deeper.  If it's just an issue of personal rancor, poor communication and/or misunderstandings, then I'll put the matter on my list of things to not care about.

However, my curiosity about Age of Heroes has been piqued.  It's ironic that the creator of the game has chosen to remove my ability to assuage that curiosity.  But, if that's how he wants it, then I'll put AoH on that same list.

No need to further discuss.  Thanks.

[talysman]

However, my curiosity about Age of Heroes has been piqued.  It's ironic that the creator of the game has chosen to remove my ability to assuage that curiosity.  But, if that's how he wants it, then I'll put AoH on that same list.

if your curiousity is truly burning, and if you know the old URL for AoH, you can try looking it up in the Wayback Machine:

Wayback Machine

[Kester Pelagius]

Greetings,

if your curiousity is truly burning, and if you know the old URL for AoH, you can try looking it up in the Wayback Machine:

Wayback Machine

Or... check John Kim's page of free RPGs.  I think there used to be a direct link to a earlier version of the ruleset there.

Failing that, if you are really interested, I am sure someone here must have a copy they could e-mail you.  Heck I might even have a copy for all I know.  (Have a CDROM crammed full of things and stuff RPG related that I've barely glanced at more than 1-2% of... somewhere.)

Anyone?


Kind Regards,

Kester Pelagius

[ethan_greer]

Yeah, a friendly Forgite is emailing it to me.  Thanks all!

[Gordon C. Landis]

I think it is worth adding - my reading of Brian's comments (and what I know from what Brian has posted elsewhere, like RPG.net) is NOT that they refer exclusively to the Forge, Ron or Clinton.  Brian is upset about censorship and personal attacks from the "internet game community" in general, as well as having issues about the Forge in particular.

Seemed like a relevant addition - sorry if I'm adding to a thread who's brief life has already ended.

Gordon

[Bankuei]

Hi guys,

Nothing deeply meaningful to say here, except that I highly support the Forge's policy of requiring discussion in the truest sense, that is polite, well thought out posts, plus the willingness to consider the points of others.  This policy has contributed to the Forge's quality of discussion and overall focus.  

I am rather sad to see that many intelligent folks get turned off after either being asked to provide more than opinion, give further clarification or else feel "unacknowledged" after providing either an opinion or raw statement.

But, on the beneficial side, folks who do "get it" contribute meaningfully, and those who, for whatever reason, are unable to, leave.  Elitism?  No more than asking that you come decently dressed(shirt and shoes) to a nice restaurant.

Chris