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Started by KingstonC, March 27, 2004, 01:44:37 PM
Quote... Trollbabe is much like the work of many sex positive feminists, who try to create pornography free of sexist assumptions. It's also a challenge to those in the gaming community that find the HWWiCMB offensive on their face. It's like Ron is saying "This game is clearly not sexist. But it's chock full of hot warrior women. So, either your opposition to hot warrior women in gaming is satisfied or you must admit that it is not fear of sexism, but pure prudery, that drives your opposition."
Quote from: Ron EdwardsI'm not bothering with whether or not trollbabes are troll-human hybrids...Hell, I don't care. What matters is that trollbabes do not exist in the setting except as player-characters, and you shouldn't think of them as being a race of any kind...(A) trollbabe is neither troll nor human-she is functionally apart, yet tied into the fates and interactions of both peoples...The trollbabe may be automatically percieved as an automatic friend or and automatic foe by both humans and trolls, yet her perspective is not identical with either one's. (emphasis mine) Her presence cannot help but destabilize the status quo...Ultimately, she may become the means of resolution.
Quote from: Ron EdwardsThe story opens with a cool trollbabe hiking along...
Quote from: Ron EdwardsSo yeah, the game delivers a message ... but it's the message that the player of a particular trollbabe wants to say, to the rest of us, and it's only realized through play itself.
QuoteAre the issues that you brought up, regarding sex-positive feminism and the role of iconic sexuality, themselves a "message"? I don't think so, not in the sense that I want people who don't get it to get it from reading or playing Trollbabe. Rather, it's more like a litmus test. Either you get the whole "powerful female sexuality" thing, or you don't. If you don't, you'll go hissing and puffing away, indignant about how awful this fantasy-female game is ... and in my opinion, much to my relief. I'm not interested in dealing with Trollbabe players who can't hack that particular issue.
Quote from: james_westIt has occurred to me that a lot of the play examples I've seen (and my first impulse as well) was folks grabbing their wife/girlfriend and running it solo. This ties into this somehow ...