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Author Topic: [Capes] Scene Goals  (Read 1962 times)
Doug Ruff
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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2004, 09:39:28 AM »

IMHO, claiming the Goal isn't a problem. If any player claims it, they've done it for the side.

The tricky bit is agreeing what the Goal is in the first place. I think a 'team huddle' at the start of the scene to agree this is acceptable.

And if one player can't agree with the team Goal and wants to pursue their own Agenda (kill the Bank Robbers, rather than capture them) then I think the rules can already handle them taking their own side, even splitting dice from their team near the end of the conflict (betrayal!)
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2004, 12:10:06 PM »

I'm sorry, Doug, but I don't see what this does that Complication's don't do already.

If all of the players are agreed that some Complication is the "key conflict" of the scene then they're going to put most of their effort into it, on both sides of the hero/villain divide.  Which means that it will be worth a lot of Victory Points.  Which means that when it's resolved the scene will end.  So when you have the consensus that Scene Goals would require anyway, Complications work just like Scene Goals.

However, if the players aren't agreed on which Complication is key then the existing Complication system lets them find out by playing the game.  Scene Goals would prevent that.

I appreciate that you've put a lot of thought into this, but I don't have a use for it.
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Doug Ruff
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2004, 12:44:24 PM »

Fair enough, Tony, I can see that. In which case, I'll try very hard to avoid using Goal (with a capital "G") from now on (unless it's at the beginning of a sentence!)

Thanks for taking the time to explore this with me - I would suggest that this thread is now closed unless someone has something really important to say about it.
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