Leaping into the Fray

[leomknight]

D'oh! Color me blushed. I just noticed the reviews section. What a ridiculous place to put a building...

[Henry Fitch]

Actually, I've been wondering where to find Dust Devils myself. Could someone point me in the right direction? Same goes for Le Mon Mouri, and Violence Future, if either of those is written up anywhere...

Just watch me stumble onto these and feel stupid.

[Buddha Nature]

Dust Devils is here

Le Mon Morie is here.

AFAIK Violence Future is not out yet and you can't see it unless you are in with the "inner circle" of The Forge (don't feel bad - I wanna see it too)

-Shane

[Ron Edwards]

"Inner circle" my patootie. Seeing Violence Future is just a matter of being in Dav's role-playing group; it has nothing to do with the Forge.

Best,
Ron

[Buddha Nature]

Sorry about the "inner circle" stuff, I didn't mean anything by it, at least not in a bad way.  Though if I can make a minor complaint here:

It is kinda difficult to really get into a thread when only like 5 or 6 people have played the game and those are the only people who have seen it/have access to it.

Two examples that I can think of off the top of my head are discussions of play of Trollbabe and Violence Fututre, two games I am eagerly awaiting to come out because they sound great, but which I can't really contribute to the discussions of except in a highly abstract/theoretical manner since I can't see/play the material.

Maybe I am just a lone case here, maybe I am being an asshole, but it has been something that has annoyed me on The Forge and I feel fairly safe here so I feel I can voice a complaint and not have a fear of flaming or whatnot.  Hopefully I won't have that feeling of safety crushed once I hit this Submit button =)

-Shane

[Ron Edwards]

Hi Shane,

No worries, you're safe. The issue you raise is totally valid. That very concern is why I decided to stop posting about Trollbabe in any specific terms. Granted, I mention it every so often, to remind people that's it's coming up, for buzz purposes. But I've played it a hell of a lot in the last month or two, and not posted about it.

As for Violence Future, I've posted about that as a motor for discussing graphic violence/sex during play, as the key issue, rather than the game itself. The hope was that people could address the topic from the viewpoint of any game they'd played, so that familiarity with VF wasn't a bar to joining.

I agree with you that interest in both games is reaching a fever pitch, and therefore an undesirable "in the know" vs. "unfavored" split seems to form among Forge members. I hate this effect like poison. My only solution is to move-move-move on production, to keep the split as brief as possible. I know Dav is already past his post-playtest rewrite, and Trollbabe is currently in the art/layout phase.

Best,
Ron

[Blake Hutchins]

Actually, I like hearing about games in development, especially if the posts describing them can bring to life something concrete about the game's flavor or mechanics or gameplay.  I haven't seen Violence Future either (would like to), but I'm not bothered by that in the least.  Au contraire, I appreciate folks "previewing" games in the pipeline.

Best,

Blake

[Philippe Tromeur]

Where could I find some of the games you've mentioned: InSpectres, Wuthering Heights, Questing Beast, the Pool & Dust Devils?

Wuthering Heights is to be found on my site ( http://pht.fr.st/rene.htm ).
I was supposed to deliver a new version recently, but couldn't find the time to do it (I participate into the French version of Nobilis, and into the original "In Nomine Satanis / Magna Veritas").

4 different versions are to be found on the site :
- the French original version, and its supplements
- the English "alpha" version (in pdf), the basic rules slightly more advanced than the French one, but not the supplements
- an evolution of this "alpha" version (in pdf too), with some more pages and photos, but it need much more work !!
- an HTML version of the rules in English, which is the most "official" set of rules in english to be found : http://pht.fr.st/whrpg.htm

[Le Joueur]

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[Mike Holmes]

It is kinda difficult to really get into a thread when only like 5 or 6 people have played the game and those are the only people who have seen it/have access to it.

Guilty as charged. Apollogies to all.

Mike

[Mike Holmes]

To get back on thread, one of my first Narrativist attempts was with Over the Edge. And Ron actually warned me. Did not go very well, and died of it's own weight after only five sessions or so. Partly my fault, but OtE fits Ron's Abashedly Narrativist description in one way. It does not really have an obvious Premise.

Use with care, and not as a first narrativist game.

Mike