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Denise
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Maybe I didn't make myself clear?
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The Annual Gen Con EN World RPG Awards ("The ENnies")
Valamir
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Re: 2007 ENnie Awards Submissions Questions thread
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Reply #16 on:
March 06, 2007, 09:27:37 PM »
While it should be obvious, it perhaps is a good time to make explicit that every indie publisher is their own individual with their own opinions and own set of values that they bring to their endeavor. Its good to remember that the opinions expressed here are those of their author (who are completely entitled to hold them) but are not necessarily representative of anyone else...or even of a majority of indie-publishers.
For me, I've got zero problem with the expense of the Ennies being a barrier to entry for some. Its a filter, no worse than any other filter. In some ways its better because it allows publishers to self select based on what's important to them.
There's not a single person on this forum who can afford a broad band connection but can't afford $100* in shipping charges. Its a simple question of which is more important, entering the Ennies or whatever else you can buy with that $100. So what if that $100 represents a tiny fraction of your profits or 1/2 of everything you've ever made. $100 is $100...its 5 movies with a date, its 18 McDonald's Value Meals, its 10 months of Net Flix, its 3 best seller hard cover books at Barnes & Noble...or its the price of entering the Ennies. Do the math, make the choice.
I fully understand that there is a time and a place for encouraging and accepting and considering suggestions, and there is a time and a place for laying out how it is -- take it or leave it. With any endeavor there comes a point where the organizer has to cut off debate and move on or else the project goes no where. That the Ennies is at that point is entirely reasonable.
I hesitate to speak for others, but I think its pretty safe to say that we are all impressed, grateful, and (for me at least) frankly surprised by the lengths you've gone to to accomodate indie publishers already.
Thanks, it is appreciated.
*effectively less than $100 once tax deductions are accounted for.
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Jonathan Walton
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Re: 2007 ENnie Awards Submissions Questions thread
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March 06, 2007, 10:19:55 PM »
Denise, I apologize for misreading your post.
Like, Ralph, I do really appreciate the degree to which you've reached out to indie publishers and I wasn't trying to argue for additional exceptions or anything of that sort. I realize that things are the way they are, at least for this year.
Competing in the ENies may not be the best use of my resources this year and that's fine. Hopefully in the future.
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Denise
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Some submissions clarifications
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March 08, 2007, 11:47:05 AM »
Just in case anyone was wondering:
-If you don't want to fill in the entry form and fax it or scan it, you're welcome to simply email me the information in a text file. Just make sure that I know the product name and in which categories it's entered, and that I have complete and accurate contact information for you. That way, if it's nominated, I can get more info for the web site, invitations, and promotional materials.
-If you do fill in the form, you don't need to send me the first page (the one with all the category descriptions). Just send me your company profile section and your choice of either the short or long product info form. The long form was there so that if publishers wanted to list all their contributors, or detail revisions, or include a haiku or self-portrait (not that the two latter would make any difference other than making me smile), but for most people, the short form should suffice.
-The 25 character title name is so that if you win, we can fit your name on the trophy or medal (but I'm not even certain if I'm going to individually engrave the medals this year or not- it's an added expense and PITA)
-All products will automatically be entered into the big umbrella (Best Game, Best d20 Product, Best Electronci Product, Product of the Year) as appropriate. That's why there's no check boxes on the entry form for those categories.
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Justin D. Jacobson
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Re: 2007 ENnie Awards Submissions Questions thread
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March 09, 2007, 09:46:46 AM »
For the record, I think "The comp copies are essentially part of the judges' compensation" is a perfectly valid explanation for sending them to all judges even if they already own them. That reason hadn't occurred to me.
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Denise
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Thanks, everyone!
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March 19, 2007, 03:22:31 PM »
I just have to say how excited I am to see the list of incoming Indie product! What's driving me crazy is I won't see most of the 6th pile stuff until I drive to my friend Chris' place in July for Origins!
Please keep it coming, it does my heart good to see such a favourable response from names I've seen on The Forge!
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