Backwards stakes

[higgins]

I was just thinking... If all depends on narration, what stops the players with low Screen Presence from abusing their small hands to set backwards stakes. "Will I be defeated in this duel? Oh, I have only one card. It's black. I'm not defeated at all!" "Will I fail in winning a large sum of many on lottery? No, I succeed!" etc

My own group wouldn't do this, but it could be a problem in convention one-shots. Any ideas?

[jburneko]

The book clearly states that Stakes are about character goals.  What does the *character* want out of the conflict, not the player.

Those Stakes simply break the rules of the game.

Jesse

[Eero Tuovinen]

Is it even the player who establishes the Stakes? I seem to remember that it's the Producer, with the player's stated character intent as his input.

[higgins]

The book clearly states that Stakes are about character goals.  What does the *character* want out of the conflict, not the player.

Great rebuttal! I was automatically thinking in TROS terms where the SAs handle what the *player* wants. A very important distinction. Thanks!

Is it even the player who establishes the Stakes? I seem to remember that it's the Producer, with the player's stated character intent as his input.

It's the player as far as I get it. Producer frames the scenes with the player's input, but stakes are by players themselves. Bottom box on p. 28 backs this up too.