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CAH for Slayers?

Started by Michael Hopcroft, April 01, 2003, 05:34:40 AM

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Michael Hopcroft

I'll know more when I have access to the book again (it's a long story, involviong moving, an overzealous housecleaning and a massive collapse of an entire book collection stacked precariously to begin with), but what with the new Spell Clusters rules I was thinking that CAH would be a very interesting system to try and do Slayers with. It may be anime, but in retrospect it resembles a lot of retro-toons (the massively powerful spells do a TON of damage to structures but not very many people die, for example). And, after all, more than anything else Slayers resembles a high-powered D&D campaign gone horribly, horribly wrong.
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Spooky Fanboy

Most of thew anime obviously aimed at a younger audience (Pokemon) is close enough to the toons being done by CAH that you can get away with it. The over-the-topness of some stunts, though, might be harder to duplicate...
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Michael Hopcroft

Now there's a scary thought -- Pokemon in CAH.

Then again, Pokemon isn't such a bad series and if I were to run a game of it I'd seriously consider CAH as my system.

Another show I'd seriously consider CAH for is Voltron. Remember Voltron? I think this series was my introduction to anime, and really to how wonderful animation of all types could be. I really wish I could see the original japanese series from which Voltron was constructed (getting to see Superdimensional Fortress Macross in japanese was a special treat I'll remember the rest of my life.)
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Eddy Fate

Quote from: Michael HopcroftAnother show I'd seriously consider CAH for is Voltron. Remember Voltron? I think this series was my introduction to anime, and really to how wonderful animation of all types could be. I really wish I could see the original japanese series from which Voltron was constructed (getting to see Superdimensional Fortress Macross in japanese was a special treat I'll remember the rest of my life.)

Absolutely.  Many of the original anime "imports" (Robotech, Voltron, et al) are appropriate inspiration for CAH.

So... vehicles or lions?
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Michael Hopcroft

Quote from: Eddy Fate

Absolutely.  Many of the original anime "imports" (Robotech, Voltron, et al) are appropriate inspiration for CAH.

So... vehicles or lions?

Lions. Definitely lions. I only saw one episode of vehicles.
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Wulf

Quote from: Michael HopcroftI was thinking that CAH would be a very interesting system to try and do Slayers with. It may be anime, but in retrospect it resembles a lot of retro-toons (the massively powerful spells do a TON of damage to structures but not very many people die, for example). And, after all, more than anything else Slayers resembles a high-powered D&D campaign gone horribly, horribly wrong.

As one of my favourite anime, I was a bit worried about the upcoming BESM Slayers sourcebooks, as BESM is just so damn packed full of options. It takes me an age to figure out how best to do anything, and the BESM Fantasy Bestiary worried me even more (did you see the hoops they had to jump through to do some of the creatures?). So this thought had occurred to me too!

I'm just not sure even a revamped CAH can do as much damage as Dragon Slave... But yes, the ability of people to survive ridiculous ammounts of damage does point to a CAH-like mechanic. Lodoss War, on the other hand, may require something a bit more serious (yes, it was based on a D&D campaign, but that would be just one step too far...).

Now... how about Dragon Half...

Wulf

Slant

I can't think about the Slayers without mentioning my other favorite fantasy anime: Those Who Hunt Elves.  Really funny stuff.

And, did you ever notice, the spells in Slayers are mostly carbon copy spells from D&D, even right down to their names?  Somebody in Japan has been playing waaay too much Dungeons & Dragons ;)

Eddy Fate

Quote from: SlantI can't think about the Slayers without mentioning my other favorite fantasy anime: Those Who Hunt Elves.  Really funny stuff.

And, did you ever notice, the spells in Slayers are mostly carbon copy spells from D&D, even right down to their names?  Somebody in Japan has been playing waaay too much Dungeons & Dragons ;)

IIRC, Slayers is actually based off of someone's D&D campaign.  Or was that Lodoss War?
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Wulf

Lodoss War (well, certainly the original series) certainly was based off a D&D campaign, but Slayers may well have been too. Only I doubt that all 4 series were based off actual play examples!

Wulf

I gotta get me 'Those Who Hunt Elves'...

Eddy Fate

Quote from: WulfLodoss War (well, certainly the original series) certainly was based off a D&D campaign, but Slayers may well have been too. Only I doubt that all 4 series were based off actual play examples!

If they were, I'm not sure I'd want to play in that game... ;-)
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Michael Hopcroft

Someone at the last GenCon described Lina Inverse to me as "a D&D character played by a munchkin". Someone whod' read the Monster Manual cover-to-cover before picking up their dice, knew everything about the world even though their character could not possibly known so much, had min-maxed beyond the limits, and who had picked up spells no sane person would even attempt to learn.

I've always wondered how she learned that spell of hers that destroys the universe when you cast it wrong. How does she PRACTICE?

But then Slayers was meant to satirize a high-powered D&D campaign gone horribly, horribly wrong....
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Wulf

Quote from: Michael HopcroftSomeone at the last GenCon described Lina Inverse to me as "a D&D character played by a munchkin".

Basically, though, how ELSE do you play an 18th level MU? Or whatever level she has to be. How many Weapon Of Mass Destruction spells (9th level) does she know?

This is exactly why I have doubts that CAH can portray Slayers. It just never reaches that level of overkill...

On a side note, this Saturday I will play my first game of DD3e, as a Fighter/MU. The DM has never seen Slayers...

Wulf

Eddy Fate

Quote from: WulfThis is exactly why I have doubts that CAH can portray Slayers. It just never reaches that level of overkill...

I suppose it could be geared for that level of overkill, but it would take some work.

Hrm... let me contemplate that.
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Wulf

Quote from: Eddy FateI suppose it could be geared for that level of overkill, but it would take some work.

Hrm... let me contemplate that.

After These messages #2...

DRAGON SLAVE!

Wulf

Eddy Fate

Quote from: Wulf
Quote from: Eddy FateI suppose it could be geared for that level of overkill, but it would take some work.

Hrm... let me contemplate that.

After These messages #2...

DRAGON SLAVE!

Wulf

w00t!
Eddy Webb
Vice-President, Spectrum Game Studios
Co-Line Developer for http://www.zmangames.com/CAH/">Cartoon Action Hour
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