Just Praise

[Eric]

On 2001-10-18 14:31, Ron Edwards wrote:
Hi Eric,
Well, we crossed wires a little, I think.

I like Cerebus too.  And I still eagerly read every issue, and enjoy most of them.  It is just sad about the anti-woman thing.  Dave is so right about so much else.

(I'll wait until some other, more appropriate moment to go into the big discussion of RPG commerce.)

I look forward to reading it.

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So my concern is mainly getting people EITHER into stores, asking about Sorcerer and its supplements, OR to the site, to buy them there. Either one is fine by me.
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Okay.  I'm sad to say that brings us back to lesbians.  :cool:

Gamers are a hard market to reach, but you might look into local ad rates for whatever cable channel is carrying Buffy in the largest metropolitan area close to you.  I have yet to meet a narrative focused roleplayer who didn't like at least the first three seasons of Buffy.

[Paul Czege]

I believe Howard Stern's dictum that lesbians = ratings....The during the one serious attempt my friends and I ever made at producing an rpg, I tried to sell them on using the spokesmen model to market the game. No one was interested, but I remain convinced that just as George Foreman sold grills and Asimov has sold magazines, so to could putting someone's name on the cover sell rpgs. Particularly if that someone was a lesbian.

Ellen DeGeneris presents, Golem Killers, a roleplaying game by Paul Czege.

Hmmm...

[Ron Edwards]

Lesbian Diabolists, a mini-supplement for Sorcerer ...

No. I absolutely refuse.

Wait ... sales, you say? Website traffic? Profits?

Oh I hate these moral dilemmas.

Best,
Ron

[Paul Czege]

As if Matt hadn't already seized the golden piggy bank with Kayfabe, imagine a lesbian wrestling supplement.

Paul

[Blake Hutchins]

Oy.

[Eric]

On 2001-10-19 15:18, Paul Czege wrote:
As if Matt hadn't already seized the golden piggy bank with Kayfabe, imagine a lesbian wrestling supplement.

Paul

Okay, I don't get this reference, and google gives me no satisfactory hints.  Would you mind spelling it out?

I've always thought it was weird that men's wrestling was more popular than women's, but I suppose that it is topic for a different thread.

Much as I like Ellen, I don't think she'd sell many books.  At least not to gamers.  Now Amber Benson . . . .

[Paul Czege]

The Forge's very own Matt Gwinn has his game http://www.angelfire.com/games3/errantknight/kayfabe/">Kayfabe here http://www.angelfire.com/games3/errantknight/kayfabe/">http://www.angelfire.com/games3/errantknight/kayfabe/.

The Ellen reference was an attempt to be funny by failing to understand how lesbianism works as a selling point.

Paul

[Eric]

Thanks.  Too bad I didn't know about that game when I was writing reviews of wrestling games, which thankfully remains the only freelance gig I've ever quit.