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September 30, 2003, 11:43:58 PM »
Concept game might work, borrowing from the "concept album", such as Jeff Waynes War of the Worlds or some Floyd stuff.
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Aww, but how are we gonna look all cool and clever on rpg net if we can't blow off someone else's game by saying "I always approached Grom: The fruitang as a gedankenspiele, but if you will insist on trying to play it, be my guest."
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October 01, 2003, 06:46:22 AM »
Ron,
Calling them Concept Games sounds best to me. Each term that has been nominated encompasses a slightly different set of games, but they all include the sets of games that I mentioned in my first post.
Gedankengames, in my mind, might even include games that are not written up as game text: i.e. a post in the Indie Game Design forum describing a game or an imagined text of a game session for a game that does not exist. Useful stuff.
Statement Games seems too oriented around intent for my purposes, but it is a definite subset, or maybe I am reading the term wrong.
Several people have mentioned points I would like to follow up on, perhaps, in a new thread.
1) How is design for a Statement/Concept Game different from a game where Actual Play is a consideration? Are GNS priorities considerations? (Recall
Reading Games As Substitutionary For Play
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Designing Games As Substitutionary For Play"
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2) Does intent matter?
3) Expanding on Comte comments about games that comment on society as a fourth type of Statement game. I originally had a section on them on my original post, but couldn't think of any firm examples.
Regardless, I think the purpose of this thread has largely been served.
Thanks to everyone,
Mark
[amended to add line about statement games]
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