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Author Topic: Silly Damage resistance  (Read 1522 times)
feanor
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2003, 03:23:10 PM »

Is everyone else missing the obvious flaw in orginal msg ?

"example:

Plate Armour: AV 6 TO 8 = DR 14 (a character from Stahl +1 TO)

Greatsword: DAM Str + 3 (ATN 6) ST 4 = DAM 7 "

This is example is kinda stupid ...with STR of 8 situation would be quite different. Plate armor costs lots of dicepool , which means less defence/offence.

I make a another example to show how ridicilous 1st one is.

Average Adult: ST of 4 and armed with club
Average Children: TO of 1

which one gets his ass kicked ?

Greatsword guy from orginal example is obviously out of his leagua and should get his ass kicked for beeing so stupid to get in to fight with Stalnish knight.
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Jim
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2003, 04:54:09 PM »

Quote from: Ian.Plumb
Hi,

Quote from: Caz
From what I understand, in medieval europe at least, smiths generally didn't make armour.  It was a business tightly controlled by guilds, where students actually had to be qualified to make and publicly sell specific pieces of armour, adhering to usually fairly strict quality control.


Do you have a reference for this?


In the late 15th c. sheet steel was brought from Brescia to Milan, the entire output of the Missaglia and later Negroli workshops did not make their own steel. Steel implements that did not need high degrees of skillful production (this actually included gun barrels) were built locally at Brescia.
The Augsburg and Nuremburg armourers also did not make their own steel, it cost far too much to bring the raw material to the urban centres and was far more cost efficient to bring the plate to the armours.
It must be remembered that late mediaeval armouring was not a cottage industry, it was a huge industrial concern requiring large water hammers, water powered grinding facilities and huge numders of staff. One armourer did not complete a suit except in high value commisions, the plattner roughly worked off a template and passed the piece to the grinders for finishing. The armourer then did the final assembly, some 1550-1600s pikeman's armour (pre-pike & shot cabasset, breast and tasset harness) in the munitions Almain Rivet style even had sliding wingnuts to enable armours to fit radically different sized men.
I recommend such works as:
'The Medieval Soldier', Gerry Embleton & John Howe, 1994
ISBN 1 85915 036 5
'Medieval Military Costume', Gerry Embleton, 2000
ISBN 1 86126 371 6
'The Renaissance at War', Thomas Arnold, 2001
ISBN 0 304 35270 5
Also, anything by Keene is usually pretty good.
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