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8/15/2003 Marco: The gap between CRPG's and Pen and Paper breached!
Check this out: http://www.gamespy.com/fargo/august03/realrpg/ It's a joke (a pretty good one, IMO)--but it does raise issues with the pervasiveness of trends of dysfunction in the RPG experience. My own experience…
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Participants: Marco, Windthin.


8/15/2003 sirogit: Personality mechanics that work(for you)
Thanks to Ron for the GNS essay which I grabbed this phrase out of and may even have have mislabeled for something else entirely. Thanks Ron! I've always found personality…
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Participants: sirogit, Alan, gobi, Valamir, Mike Holmes, Rob Donoghue, Ron Edwards, John Kim, talysman, AgentFresh, M. J. Young, Windthin, Emily Care, Zheng He, Jack Spencer Jr, Andrew Martin, James Holloway, kamikaze, Walt Freitag, Lxndr, Hunter Logan, Paul Czege, RaconteurX.


8/15/2003 John Kim: Handling Detail and What it Means
In the thread on escalation, Gordon thought that the stuff on detail escalation should be split into a separate thread. So here it is... Going back to the comment that…
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Participants: John Kim, Alan, Jack Spencer Jr, Windthin, M. J. Young, Mike Holmes, Gordon C. Landis.


8/14/2003 GB Steve: Narrative rpgs make good card games
In this thread, I propose that MLwM would make a cracking card game. Now thinking about this a bit more, it seems apparent that much the same could be said…
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Participants: GB Steve, Mike Holmes, Valamir, Wolfen, iago, Ron Edwards, gobi, contracycle, simon_hibbs, RaconteurX.


8/13/2003 Hunter Logan: The problem with published rpgs (rant, long)
I've been following some of the more recent threads in rpg theory and I haven't really wanted to say anything. Then, over the weekend, I went with my friend to…
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Participants: Hunter Logan, Dr. Velocity, Alan, John Kim, pete_darby, Bankuei, Mike Holmes, Jack Spencer Jr, contracycle, WDFlores, Gordon C. Landis, Wolfen, M. J. Young, Jeph, Clinton R. Nixon.


8/13/2003 Hunter Logan: Benefits and Uses for Metaplot
I think the ongoing discussion of metaplots is pretty counterproductive. Metaplots are tools, and they can serve a purpose. They can provide a more dynamic background for a game world,…
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Participants: Hunter Logan, xiombarg, AnyaTheBlue, Valamir, contracycle.


8/13/2003 anonymouse: Smacked Upside the Head with a Guitar:
or, FLCL-inspired play design. (FLCL - pronounced 'Fooly Cooly' - is a six-episode anime series from Gainax. i watched it again after a space of a few years this past…
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Participants: anonymouse, Paul Czege, Mike Holmes, gobi.


8/12/2003 Marco: More illusionism
[b] This was split from a thread about players modifying dice results in Actual Play.[/b] Assuming that the GM ran a game "straight" (pinball-sim, here's a map, go explore ...…
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Participants: Marco, Ron Edwards, Mike Holmes, Walt Freitag, cruciel.


8/12/2003 Jack Aidley: Developing Mr. Jack's Crunchy Combat System.
This is a sort of follow on from 'Crunchy' scene-resolution, in which I suggested I figure the basic reason D&D combat gets dull is because of it's take turns standing…
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Participants: Jack Aidley, kregmosier, M. J. Young, HMT.


8/12/2003 madelf: celtic mytholgy in RPGs
Some may remember a while back I had a thread going where some debate cropped up about pagan religions, their inherent morality/amorality, and the impact of religion on society. I…
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Participants: madelf, taalyn, simon_hibbs, contracycle, Ron Edwards, ejh, Windthin, John Kim, James Holloway.


8/11/2003 Matt Snyder: 'Exhuastion Escalation' in illusionist play
In another thread, Ron Edwards, while discussing possible pitfalls in Illusionism, wrote: And finally, such play may suffer from "exhaustion escalation," in which the game-world crises become larger and larger…
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Participants: Matt Snyder, Ron Edwards, jburneko, Jack Spencer Jr, GB Steve, WDFlores, Walt Freitag, contracycle, Marco, Mike Holmes, Gordon C. Landis, John Kim, cruciel.


8/11/2003 pete_darby: "Bluff" mechanic in RPG's
In This thread, I asked: Question: has there been an RPG that uses a Perudo like device where you can "bluff" your results? Could there be? (Thinks: Perduo Rune... time…
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Participants: pete_darby, Mike Holmes, Walt Freitag, Michael S. Miller, iago.


8/11/2003 Dev: Bringing In your Angsty Past: ad hoc or pre-fab?
That is to say: a mechanic in my game/setting will be invoking a past "event" to modify some in game event. It would almost be akin to a flashback, really:…
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Participants: Dev, Windthin, contracycle.


8/11/2003 Seidaku: Skill System Woes
I'm part of a team in the process of designing a skill structure for a MUSH. Some fairly unique problems have cropped up; I'm hoping you guys are able to…
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Participants: Seidaku, iago, HMT, Mike Holmes, Shreyas Sampat, M. J. Young, Andrew Martin, Walt Freitag.


8/10/2003 CplFerro: Defining Published-Style RPGs
Ferro’s General Theory of Role-Playing Version 1.02 1 The /idea/ of /published-style role-playing games/ (RPGS) is a meaningful genre, expressed negentropically. That idea causes the hobby worth of specific games…
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Participants: CplFerro, Mike Holmes, contracycle, Ron Edwards, Valamir, M. J. Young.


8/10/2003 M. J. Young: In-game Fear
I've got a bit of a problem with a scenario, and Fruitsmack's thread on Suspense in RPGs was very close but not quite on it, so I'm starting this…
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Participants: M. J. Young, jdagna, Cemendur, Marco, Jake Norwood, Windthin, Mike Holmes.


8/10/2003 Dune: help out the newbi
i've been really intreasted in making my own RPGs. and i've actually got a ton of ideas, but i'm not quite sure how to actually start the process of creating…
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Participants: Dune, M. J. Young, Alan, Ron Edwards.


8/9/2003 Sir Thomas: 'Crunchy' scene-resolution
Hi, I'm a long-time lurker at The Forge, and have seen many great ideas that have got me thinking about my game. For a long time now I've GMed a…
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Participants: Sir Thomas, cruciel, HMT, Mark Johnson, Windthin, ethan_greer, Ron Edwards, Comte, Clinton R. Nixon, Jack Aidley, Lxndr, Mike Holmes.


8/8/2003 Jack Spencer Jr: a perspective on roleplaying
This was originally going to be a reply to the RPGs and related media thread, but I'm going to talk about all kinds of things that would most likely derail…
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Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, simon_hibbs, Mike Holmes, John Kim, Jonathan Walton, M. J. Young, Ron Edwards, Windthin, ejh, Emily Care.


8/8/2003 M. J. Young: In-game Courtroom Drama
Back somewhere in the incredibly long and multiply derailed Sharks With Lasers On Their Heads thread, I commented that I thought it possible to do courtroom drama if you…
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Participants: M. J. Young, Smithy, pete_darby.


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8/15/2003 Jonathan Walton: The Limits of Roleplaying: Solitaire
Reflecting on a bunch of the stuff that was brought up in this thread, I was especially drawn to the idea that roleplaying necessarily involved "shared imaginative space." This goes…
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Participants: Jonathan Walton, M. J. Young, Mark Johnson, ejh, Tim Alexander, Jack Spencer Jr, simon_hibbs, RARodger, Noon.


8/16/2003 Jack Spencer Jr: generic genre?
I continue to pick up games when I find them Scored Top Secret & Star Frontiers for $2. Not bad. Browsing the Top Secret book, I noticed something. the Foreword…
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Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, AgentFresh, Mark Johnson, Marco, M. J. Young, kamikaze, simon_hibbs, John Kim, Cemendur, Mike Holmes.


8/17/2003 jdagna: The System's Role in Exhaustion Escalation
I've been lurking on Exhaustion Escalation in Illusionist Play but I've never been a part of enough illusionist play to contribute much there. However, system got only a small…
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Participants: jdagna, Jack Spencer Jr, M. J. Young, Rob MacDougall, Windthin.


8/17/2003 Jeph: Character sheets as the equivalent of plot webs?
So yeah. Do you remember, back in elementary school, when your fourth grade teacher told you how to start planning a story? You made a little blurb in the center…
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Participants: Jeph, Andrew Martin, jdagna, M. J. Young, Ben Morgan, gobi, iago, Ron Edwards, Nathaniel, Windthin, David Chunn, Mike Holmes, WDFlores, ross_winn.


8/20/2003 bcook1971: Bag of Questions and a Dilemma
Some questions. (This starts out RPG Theory and turns GNS. Wasn’t sure where to post it.) I’ve been trying to find a comprehensive glossary of terms and acronyms with no…
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Participants: bcook1971, Jack Spencer Jr, Andrew Martin, Alan, ethan_greer, Garbanzo, jburneko, M. J. Young, Bankuei, Emily Care.


8/20/2003 Windthin: Proficiency and Pitfalls
Well... I've been thinking about how to show mastery, proficiency, in skills, and these are some thoughts that occured, and a possible solution I'd like feedback on. First off, I've…
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Participants: Windthin, iago, bcook1971, Ron Edwards, M. J. Young, Andrew Martin.


8/20/2003 Dev: Pure Probabilty mechanic
(Just an idea, no game attached.) Imagine if you just had a big index of probabilities for lots and lots of stuff that might just randomly happen, and whenever something…
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Participants: Dev, MachMoth, M. J. Young.


8/23/2003 Dave Panchyk: Social software considerations
When I pointed this article out to Ron, he suggested I post it here. This article focuses on groups on the Internet and how they behave (and have always behaved)…
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Participants: Dave Panchyk, lumpley, Bankuei, cruciel, John Kim, Valamir, Marco, Mike Holmes.


8/25/2003 Lxndr: Stumbling Around A Rebuttal
This is in response to Erick Wujcik's recent article that he submitted to the Forge. I'm not sure if I've got my thoughts in order, but I wanted to put…
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Participants: Lxndr, Alan, Jack Spencer Jr, Noon, Tony Irwin, Hunter Logan, lumpley, Mike Holmes, M. J. Young, Halzebier, C. Edwards, Erick Wujcik, Cemendur.


8/25/2003 Jack Spencer Jr: What is a Mechanic?
The discussion in this thread has been sidetracked a bit by some disagreement on what constitues a mechanic or not. This seems like an worthwhile topic to discuss. In that…
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Participants: Jack Spencer Jr, Mike Holmes, Valamir, lumpley, Lxndr, Walt Freitag, Wormwood, iago, Hunter Logan, jdagna, Cemendur, M. J. Young, simon_hibbs, HMT, Marco, Erick Wujcik.


8/25/2003 Windthin: What is Freeform?
This thread shoots off, basially, of "Stumbling Around a Rebuttal" and "What is a Mechanic". Somebody mentioned defining freeform... so let's. Some seem to think of freemform as formless, devoid…
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Participants: Windthin, Lxndr, jdagna, lumpley, Hunter Logan, John Kim, M. J. Young, Halzebier, Mike Holmes, Jack Spencer Jr, Cemendur, Emily Care.


8/26/2003 Windthin: Wordpower: Terminology at Work
There's been talk of late here about terminology. I've noticed that most games strive to develop their own terminology. They borrow a bit from others, but it's their own terms…
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Participants: Windthin, HMT, Mike Holmes, John Kim, M. J. Young, contracycle, simon_hibbs, Alan.


8/28/2003 Mike Holmes: Mike's Standard Rant #6: Concepts are Dime a Dozen
I've had all I can takes and I can't stands it no more! As usual, I'm posting this as shorthand for a post that I make all too often. It's…
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Participants: Mike Holmes, Bankuei, John Kim, Jeph, M. J. Young, WDFlores, simon_hibbs, Lxndr, Jack Spencer Jr, Windthin.


8/30/2003 bcook1971: Plotting for Group Involvement
(If this is well-trodden ground, whoever references the respective posts, please share your approach to searching.) My core dilemma is creating game play that features the functional value of involvment…
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Participants: bcook1971, Rob Donoghue.


8/30/2003 Bogie_71: Are attributes necessary?
If this is in the wrong forum, I apologize, I wasn't sure if it was theory or game design. Alright, I know I don't read all this as much as…
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Participants: Bogie_71, gobi, HMT, talysman, MachMoth, Simon W, M. J. Young, simon_hibbs, Nathaniel.


8/30/2003 Michael Bjorklund: How to avoid Railroading!
Hi! This is the first time I am actively participating in this great forum, which I have only recently discovered. So your comments will be welcome:-) The following on railroading…
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Participants: Michael Bjorklund, Bankuei, Mike Holmes, Ron Edwards, M. J. Young.


8/30/2003 Cemendur: Towards an Addictive Personality Model of Lousy Play
Towards an Addictive Personality Model of Lousy Play · the Hero: tries to make the group look good by achieving success. · the Scapegoat: diverts attention from the problem by…
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Participants: Cemendur, talysman, Ron Edwards.


9/1/2003 MachMoth: D20 Donjon... Uh, wait!
I think this topic could have stood up in Actual Play, but I always consider the Theory forum as a catch all. Anyways, my players have shown interest in playing…
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Participants: MachMoth, Bankuei, jdagna, Dev.


9/2/2003 Daredevil: Brief Critique of Relationship Mechanics
Hey'all. There's one thing that causes me trouble when considering various relationship mechanics. Though I'm not 100% familiar with the game HeroQuest (or HeroWars) I'll bring it up as an…
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Participants: Daredevil, Valamir, Mike Holmes, Walt Freitag, joshua neff, Gordon C. Landis, John Kim, Jeff Klein, RaconteurX, contracycle, cruciel, M. J. Young, Aelios, pete_darby.


9/2/2003 linux: More Indecision
I am trying to weigh the pros and cons of the following problem I have. This pertains to the relationship between skills and attributes in my system. (D denotes things…
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Participants: linux, Noon.


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