Now, we are all torlerant people. I like that about this forum. I, myself, am a tolerant person -and in Cologne, as you know, everyone is- who spends about ten hours a week practicing the killing of fellow Colonians with different bits of steel. And sometimes, without.
And threads like this one on RPG.net are exactly why I *love* Jake for making TROS. :)

Oh my god. Apologies for the "me too" sort of post, but that's deeply, deeply sad. I got through 4 full pages of that stuff, giggling occasionally, before finally having to click it off.

Chris Lehrich

Yeah...and the scary part is, these are people who ENJOY that...

Forget the sillyness of hacking hundreds of people with impunity. Just read the page after page of esoteric knowledge about how feats interact with the combat rules and AoO...high level 3E is worse than Advanced Squad Leader for crissake. Its insane.

And I don't care,

any game in which the most effective killing weapon for a trained warrior is a spiked chain is stupid. Period.

Not to mention piss poorly playtested.

*twitch*...

*twitch* *twitch*

*shudder*

*twitch*

sorry.. after only reading a page and one post I felt compelled to go into involuntary spasms. I have no idea how anyone could enjoy that (more power to them), or how anyone can say its simple.. or indeed more simple than TROS...

*twitch*

Sort of like Big Brother, isn't it? Horrible, but you just can't stop watching. *g* On another note, I do have respect for people who can play a game like that. Gamism at its finest.

I'll admit, I am one of those who not only enjoys D&D but gets into the bizarre details of the game system and all tis esoteric little details.

Example: the other day my wife and I were at a friend's house watching a movie. I was thumbing through a book (actually a D&D supplement that I don't own) as the opening credits started. My friend shut off the lights, I continued reading by the light of the TV (I have extremely good nightvison). My wife just chuckled, she's used to me doing that. The rest of the people in the room were shaking their heads saying "Umm. how can you see?". My said "He has infravison".

I immediately responded by saying "No, you can't read with infravison, words don't create heat".

I think its a bad sign when 3 people, all of who can quote the saving throw DC for any spell in 2nd or 3rd edition D&D all turn to you at once and say "You are such a geek!"

On the note of being torlerant (misspled it the first time, might as well stick to it...), I also like this article a lot. :)

Geeze, it looks like he's wielding a street sign!

While I'm sure it's effective, it just looks silly, is hard to carry (how would I fit that in my car) and can not be carried around easily. Using that as a primary weapon would be like using a bazooka (WWII version) for self defense :)

Richard_Strey wrote: On the note of being torlerant (misspled it the first time, might as well stick to it...), I also like this article a lot. :)

I have trouble accepting that site as being legitimate. A 20 pound pole arm being whipped about like a staff? Not likely. Not to mention how this thing would react if you swung it too close to the ground...you'd probably disarm yourself.

On the wall in the Chicago Museum of Fine Art there is a sword. Its over 20 pounds, the blade is about as wide as two hands side by side. the cross guard is as broad as your shoulders and its about 8 feet long. Its very clearly marked as a ceremonial sword carried like a banner at the head of processions.

But no doubt if some fan boy got ahold of it, it would suddenly become "a mighty weapon wielded only by the strongest of knights, capable of hacking clean through both a knight and his horse in one mighty swing". Shortly thereafter it would show up in some d20 guide to weapons as a two handed sword requiring an 18 strength and the exotic weapon feat, to wield, doing 3d10 damage with a crit threshold of 5.

Maybe its just the cynic in me...but I suspect the item in the picture either has a ceremonial use...or is simply a hat rack. Super secret martial art weapon taught only by the direct decendents of its ancient master?

...sounds like another Spiked Chain to me...

Hehe looks like it'd make a good tv antenna or wether vane. Just needs a rooster on top.
Obviously they don't know how to convert pounds. There's no such thing as even a usable 10 pound pole arm.
I don't believe even that huge ceremonial sword could weight that much unless it was 1/4 inch thick and made of lead.

Valamir wrote: Super secret martial art weapon taught only by the direct decendents of its ancient master?

Uh, fill me in here, what thread?

Jake

there are two links in the posts above that are being referenced

Ah, gotcha.

THanks.

Jake

Richard_Strey wrote: On the note of being torlerant (misspled it the first time, might as well stick to it...), I also like this article a lot. :)

If it is photoshopped or otherwise faked, it's a good one. It's inserted into an archives site of Martial Arts magazines, and the credited author was a fairly legit-seeming Sifu from California who's published more than one book on martial arts.

The oriental martial arts, esp. the chinese varients are known for producing some pretty esoteric weapons, not all of which are necessarily stunningly practical. So I suspect it's legitimate for what it's worth. Now, as to how effective it would be, I'm reserving judgement. I suspect the best check would be to watch the guy winging it around a few times in a fast practice form. If he hasn't killed himself, he's probably dangerous with it. That's usually a good metric for the oddball chinese weapons.

James

timfire wrote:

Richard_Strey wrote: On the note of being torlerant (misspled it the first time, might as well stick to it...), I also like this article a lot. :)

Is it just me or does that "spear" look Photoshop'ed?

Blankshield wrote: If it is photoshopped or otherwise faked, it's a good one. It's inserted into an archives site of Martial Arts magazines, and the credited author was a fairly legit-seeming Sifu from California who's published more than one book on martial arts.

The oriental martial arts, esp. the chinese varients are known for producing some pretty esoteric weapons, not all of which are necessarily stunningly practical. So I suspect it's legitimate for what it's worth. Now, as to how effective it would be, I'm reserving judgement. I suspect the best check would be to watch the guy winging it around a few times in a fast practice form. If he hasn't killed himself, he's probably dangerous with it. That's usually a good metric for the oddball chinese weapons.

James