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Topic: What does a city in Wyerth look like?
Started by: Valamir
Started on: 3/28/2004
Board: The Riddle of Steel


On 3/28/2004 at 4:26am, Valamir wrote:
What does a city in Wyerth look like?

Well, check out this site


One of the coolest web resources I've ever seen. Over 3 dozen dutch city maps from 1652 in Gif and Jpeg. Actual period maps showing street layouts, walls and bastions and individual buildings (the jpegs are large enough and high enough res to actually make out doors and windows...ok if you squint...but still). The legends tend to be damn near illegible (and no doubt in dutch) but man...this site is cool!

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On 3/28/2004 at 4:52am, ZenDog wrote:
RE: What does a city in Wyerth look like?

Excellent resource, you found there Valamir. I like Amerfoort looks like from the name and layout it has grown up around a fort. Cool.

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On 3/28/2004 at 8:47am, Ian.Plumb wrote:
Re: What does a city in Wyerth look like?

Hi,

Valamir wrote: (SNIP)One of the coolest web resources I've ever seen. Over 3 dozen dutch city maps from 1652 in Gif and Jpeg. Actual period maps showing street layouts, walls and bastions and individual buildings.(SNIP)


If you're into contemporary maps then you might like to try the City of Lyon map available at our website. Our physical copy of the map consists of 25 A3-size panels. It is in the scenographic style and can be obtained through the Lyon Municipal Archives. Unfortunately the plates are actually a little over A3 size so they didn't fit perfectly into the scanner. Generally that's OK as most of the plates had borders but in some cases a tiny amount of detail was lost.

Our website Image Library has quite a few academic maps (rather than contemporary maps) of medieval towns and cities. We're a bit pre-occupied with Lyon and southern France but there are others. For instance the maps of Paris from 1140, 1223, and 1380 show the growth of the most populous city in western-Europe in the 12th, 13th, and 14th centuries.

Cheers,

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On 3/28/2004 at 10:40am, Irmo wrote:
RE: Re: What does a city in Wyerth look like?

Valamir wrote: Well, check out this site


One of the coolest web resources I've ever seen. Over 3 dozen dutch city maps from 1652 in Gif and Jpeg. Actual period maps showing street layouts, walls and bastions and individual buildings (the jpegs are large enough and high enough res to actually make out doors and windows...ok if you squint...but still). The legends tend to be damn near illegible (and no doubt in dutch) but man...this site is cool!


Keep in mind, though, that by that time, warfare was already quite a bit different than in those times TROS is analogous, too. The armies of the Thirty Years war were huge leviathans compared to most seen before, and firearms were becoming truly dominant., which leaves an impact in the construction of fortifications.

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On 3/28/2004 at 2:07pm, Bob McNamee wrote:
RE: What does a city in Wyerth look like?

Wow, both of those pages are really cool Ralph and Ian!

Wish I had access to that back in my ancient high school AD&D days... took a long time to draw up and good city... except for Judges Guild City of World Emperor etc...

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On 3/28/2004 at 4:10pm, Valamir wrote:
RE: What does a city in Wyerth look like?

Damn Ian. That's sweet. Alot of work for an RPG campaign...but work I heartily approve of. I used to do similiar stuff for my campaigns back in high school when time was readily available...nothing that elaborate of course, so I sure do admire the detail.

I couldn't tell though...you have a section called "products" and estimated release dates...is that material for sale? And if so why haven't you pimped the hell out of it before now...?

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On 3/28/2004 at 9:36pm, Ian.Plumb wrote:
RE: What does a city in Wyerth look like?

Hi,

Valamir wrote: Damn Ian. That's sweet. Alot of work for an RPG campaign...but work I heartily approve of. I used to do similiar stuff for my campaigns back in high school when time was readily available...nothing that elaborate of course, so I sure do admire the detail.


It's a nice map. The photographs of the map sections were taken during a restoration project. You can see signs of water damage and general aging on the plates. It was this the led to a reproduction of the 1550 map being constructed in 1874. We have a copy of this and it is perfectly clean, indicating I think how much damage occured in the 100 years between then and the restoration.

Valamir wrote: I couldn't tell though...you have a section called "products" and estimated release dates...is that material for sale? And if so why haven't you pimped the hell out of it before now...?


The site needs updating that's for sure. I'll add that to the list...

The text of the scenario is complete. The cover is being worked on as are several encounter maps. These are slated for April and, fingers-crossed, they'll get done on time. When completed I'll tackle the layout and the project is complete.

The Campaign Module is way behind schedule and there is a degree of disagreement between us on how best to approach it. However it will get done by the end of the year (or it won't get done at all).

The map products are well on the way to completion. The CC2 maps are done and now I'm working on the accompanying PDFs. These aren't far away at all -- maybe two months. So for instance the CC2 map of the city of Lyon is complete. Every street is named and 100-odd of the main architectural features are given.

Cheers,

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On 3/29/2004 at 4:45am, MrGeneHa wrote:
RE: What does a city in Wyerth look like?

http://www.io.com/~sjohn/demog.htm

A cool article on WHO is in a medieval city, town, village, etc. 12th-14th century western Europe.

How big does a town have to be to support an inn? Or a blacksmith? How many doctors are in your huge capital city? Check it out.

Gene

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