OK, here's a game based on a line of Ralph's from over in the Iraq thread:

Valamir wrote: For the record, my personal political platform is about 1/3 Right, 1/3 Left, and 1/3 Libertarian.

Hmm... I'm 3/4 ethnocentric tribal relativist and 1/4 bed-wetting liberal (quoting Dave Eggers quoting someone else).

I'm a lazy Socialist wearing the skin of a Capitalist. But let me emphasize 'Lazy'.

I'm a socially liberal, fiscally conservative type, with a little socialism for flavor.

Basically Anarcho-Syndicalist or Libertarian Socialist with some caveats regarding some socialists issues and individualism.

I'm a damn dirty hippie.

-Vincent

Socially liberal fiscally conservative capitalist.

-Dan Vince

Anarchofascist.

According to the Political Compass, my economic score is -6.62, and my authoritarian score is -7.64.

A sig line I've used in the past.

"I'm a pro-choice, anti-government spending, pro-corporate regulation, gun-ownin' liberal. Please, please me."

It's how I would represent myself to a political candidate, at least.

Fiscally I'm moving farther from libertarian and closer to socialist the older I get.

(It's odd, the more money I have the more I think I should share it with the less fortunate. When I was less fortunate, I thought everyone should fend for them-damn-selves.)

As for social issues, I'm very far left.

I've considered protesting in Boston during the Democratic Convention, by carrying a banner that reads: "We demand rights, reason, and moderation" -- but 't'would be a marching mob of one, alas.

- Walt

I'm a politically naive yaller dawg democrat.

-Lisa

5 parts irony, 3 parts contingency, 2 parts solidarity. I keep trying to up the solidarity, but I can't figure out where to get it from.

hmm, maybe that's more a philosophy answer than a politics answer (thank you, Richard Rorty). But maybe what I want politically is a proper philosophical approach . . . in American politics.

Man, I am so screwed.

Gordon

I'm a free-information-loving, free-choice-seeking, lover of the Constitution and patriot that thinks Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin were the best political thinkers we've had.

I think that ascribing to a particular political philosophy is allowing a relatively simplistic set of principles to guide your decision-making. I have values, but no political bent.

Mike

I'm a traditional liberal who supports very strong environmental policy in the name of long-term sustainability and a socialist economy of basic goods in the name of producing citizens who are able to meaningfully exercise the right to self-determination implicit in liberal political philosophy.

Matt Wilson wrote: According to the Political Compass, my economic score is -6.62, and my authoritarian score is -7.64.

Economic Left/Right: -9.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.41

Heh. It is SOOOO not surprising to see numbers that far in the negative from you guys. It would not surprise you at all to know that both of my numbers were positive. But only slightly. I'm almost in the middle of that chart.

Which is why alot of you seem like wacko extremists to me ;-)

Valamir wrote: Heh. It is SOOOO not surprising to see numbers that far in the negative from you guys. It would not surprise you at all to know that both of my numbers were positive. But only slightly. I'm almost in the middle of that chart.

Which is why alot of you seem like wacko extremists to me ;-)

Anti-authoritarian, pro-choice (in all parts of life, not just abortion) supporter of the voluntary human extinction movement.

I've said it twice already in this forum in the past few days but here it is again: Nationalism is the most evil religion ever invented.

That sums up my political views.

Do you see any difference between nationalism and patriotism? Not that I'm a big fan of either.

Lxndr wrote: Do you see any difference between nationalism and patriotism? Not that I'm a big fan of either.

Valamir wrote: Heh. It is SOOOO not surprising to see numbers that far in the negative from you guys. It would not surprise you at all to know that both of my numbers were positive. But only slightly. I'm almost in the middle of that chart.

Which is why alot of you seem like wacko extremists to me ;-)

-3.25, -6.56; which is weird, considering that I disagreed with almost every statement (I'm very specific about what I believe in). I think the stuff about Sex and Homosexuality pushed me into the Left though.

According to the Political Compass, my economic score is -2.62 and social libertarian/authoritarian is -3.33

Economic Left/Right: 7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.74

In one sentence: I consider myself an individualist, occasionally anarchist, libertarian.

Some of the questions didn't apply to me, though. "Is it more important to punish criminals or to rehabilitate them?" My response is neither. It's more important that they pay restitution to their victims.

Edit: On corporatism: I'm opposed to the idea of corporations as an arm of the state. Yet I'm in favor of a free market. There were a couple of questions that were either/or type that I couldn't answer accurately because there are other options.

I went and took the little test.

Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

Looks like that puts me snuggled inbetween Nelson Mandela and The Dalai Lama (opposite corner from Dubbya). That's pretty good company.

Chris Goodwin wrote: Some of the questions didn't apply to me, though. "Is it more important to punish criminals or to rehabilitate them?" My response is neither. It's more important that they pay restitution to their victims.

I have submitted myself for categorization, with the following results:

-5.25 econ left/right, and
-3.13 social lib/auth,

if you trust their numbers.

Rich
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I've got something like -2.5/-2.5 (I took the test thrice already and can't be bothered now) which – fortunately- brings me rather close to the centre by German standards.

Heh, you know, unless I miscount there are 9 others besides myself who took that quiz. There are 2 numbers the quiz reports. Of the 18 numbers reported...only ONE solitary number came up positive.

Looks like I'm the lone voice of political reason in these forums...;-)

The only one that really surprised me was Matt Wilson. I never would have guessed numbers that extreme for you, Matt. You hide your commie pinko sentiments well :-)

If the rumors are right, that compass is purposefully biased due to some bizarre political agenda, in an attempt to convince people to join negative-leaning parties.

I'm not well-enough informed - deliberately - to have well-formed political ideas.

Lxndr wrote: If the rumors are right, that compass is purposefully biased due to some bizarre political agenda, in an attempt to convince people to join negative-leaning parties.

Christopher Weeks wrote: (And don't get all "my political stance is way too complex to summarize like that" cuz yeah, yeah, yeah, we know!)

I'm Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69

I'm honestly surprised I wasn't in the positive numbers for Authoritarianism, but not terribly so.

I'm a communist to my core, which I readily admit, so that fits dead on; and socially I cross the line on various issues of the liberal and conservative platforms, so my near middle-ground there isn't too surprising either.

[Edit: removed political views persuant to the thread rules. Yes, I'm still breaking the rules. Sigh. I don't know how to describe my views in one sentence, sorry.]

Basically, I'm all for enlightened, empathic, communal governance -- requiring a choice to be governed and to be a part of a society, thus acceptance of its laws and regulations and behavior that supports the functioning of that society. This benefits self and the society that supports self and others which support society. More simply, I believe a society (government) owes its people everything, and thus the people owe their society (government) everything.

I'm obviously one of those commie pinko bastards Ralph is referring to. Bring it on, you hoary conservative goat! (Heh.)

Honestly, though, I'm Economically extreme, but Socially quite moderate.

Gam-Sim with Illusionism-by-Contract, eventual Nar Drift.

er.

Libertarian-socialist-anarcho-mutualist-geolibertarian-reformist moderate. With tendency to rock out.

That test asks all the wrong questions.

Economic -3.12
Social -3.28

Basically, I'm an idealist with a violent streak who rarely listens closely to anyone wearing a suit.

-Chris

I'm basically Milton Fukkin' Friedman... and your little test agrees (and, please note, for some reason, that is the ONLY person they could come up with for that entire quadrant of the damn chart).

However, I think the score may have been skewed, as some of the questions made no fukkin' sense to me AT ALL!

That "What is good for the mega-corp is good for all" question... ummm... how about, "one is about a society, and the other is about a business entity... so they have no fukkin' relation AT ALL!"

Seriously, they need a "this question is fundamentally so complex and your answers so fucktarded simplistic that I cannot even begin to feel that clicking my dot-maker over one of your stupid choices makes any sense" response. Also, I have a feeling that there was some question on there about "different people should generally keep to their own"... I have a feeling that was meant to be a racial question. I answered as if it were asking along ideological lines...

But, as the points breakdown:
Economic: 5.4 (or something)
Social: -2.41

Dav

I am an Environmentalist Libertine Socialist Conversative.

In that order.

In other words, I believe that the following things are important:
1) Environmental Preservation
2) Personal Rights
3) Preservation of Functional Society and Social Order
4) Not changing for the sake of change

Which probably puts me in the "damn dirty hippy" category :-)

yrs--
--Ben

[edit] P.S. Oops! Insert "Egalitarian" above "socialist" and below "libertine." :-P

I really heart that political compass, but it's quite skewed liberal; it's most useful probably for contests amongst friends to see who's most anti-authoritarian.

Not that I've ever done that. </shame>

Its specifically skewed Libertarian, as it is produced by the Libertarian Party IIRC. I challenge the axes they nominate in the first place; I am certainly extremely skeptical about where they place people. Gandhi never took this test, this is just where they think he SHOULD be according to their views.

I'm a Trotskyist, you know revolution, dictatorship of the proletariat, seizure of the means of production, etc etc.

According the normal paradigm of Libertarians, Communism is (quite falsely) depicted as a monolithic state entity, so I should end up with one positive score and one negative, but in fact I turn up with two strong negatives.

contracycle wrote: Its specifically skewed Libertarian, as it is produced by the Libertarian Party IIRC. I challenge the axes they nominate in the first place; I am certainly extremely skeptical about where they place people. Gandhi never took this test, this is just where they think he SHOULD be according to their views.

Economic Left/Right: -7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

Eat the rich.

contracycle wrote: Its specifically skewed Libertarian, as it is produced by the Libertarian Party IIRC. I challenge the axes they nominate in the first place; I am certainly extremely skeptical about where they place people. Gandhi never took this test, this is just where they think he SHOULD be according to their views.

I'm an American knee-jerk Liberal, somewhere around the Dalai Lama on the