Topic: longsword prof and 1h use
Started by: toli
Started on: 6/17/2004
Board: The Riddle of Steel
On 6/17/2004 at 5:48pm, toli wrote:
longsword prof and 1h use
These a questions primarily for Jake or anyone else who knows about the longsword prof.
How much 1 handed use is taught in this prof?
Do all maneuvers (eg counters) apply to both 1h use and 2h use? (aside from half-swording or course)
NT
On 6/18/2004 at 9:40am, Tash wrote:
RE: longsword prof and 1h use
I'm pretty sure they do. I can't think of any reason you couldn't do one of the maneuvers with just one hand, though I suppose its possible that a character could have neglected to train in 1 hand use, but I think that would be a roleplaying decision only, not mechanic one.
On 6/18/2004 at 3:20pm, Ashren Va'Hale wrote:
RE: longsword prof and 1h use
I think the adjusted target numbers are all the compensation you would need for portraying one handed use.
On 6/19/2004 at 1:01pm, Richard_Strey wrote:
RE: longsword prof and 1h use
Quite on track, so far. Pretty much all maneuvers can be executed both one- and twohanded. While, e.g., for a given situation A, I might employ a twohanded counter X, the onehanded response might be a totally different counter Y, it would still be a "counter". The handling and possiblilities in a fight shift somewhat once you loose the additional power -and, above all- speed and maneuverability of your second hand. This is modelled in the higher ATNs and DTNs. However, all the tactical options remain the same.
Edit: Which is the main reason the Long Sword was also called the "Two-Hand Sword" by the contemporary masters. If your left hand isn't occupied by holding a shield, you really want to keep it on your weapon. Unless of course, you are in the process of punching the other guy in the mouth, wrestling, unscrewing and throwing your pommel or whatnot. ;)
On 6/20/2004 at 5:07am, Salamander wrote:
RE: longsword prof and 1h use
Richard_Strey wrote: Quite on track, so far. Pretty much all maneuvers can be executed both one- and twohanded. While, e.g., for a given situation A, I might employ a twohanded counter X, the onehanded response might be a totally different counter Y, it would still be a "counter". The handling and possiblilities in a fight shift somewhat once you loose the additional power -and, above all- speed and maneuverability of your second hand. This is modelled in the higher ATNs and DTNs. However, all the tactical options remain the same.
Edit: Which is the main reason the Long Sword was also called the "Two-Hand Sword" by the contemporary masters. If your left hand isn't occupied by holding a shield, you really want to keep it on your weapon. Unless of course, you are in the process of punching the other guy in the mouth, wrestling, unscrewing and throwing your pommel or whatnot. ;)
Don't forget throwing him and cutting him with the sword in your other hand as he falls...
On 6/21/2004 at 1:11am, Tash wrote:
RE: longsword prof and 1h use
Holding on to the reins of your horse is another good use of your off hand. That's about the only time my longsword wielding character goes to 1 hand use.
On 6/21/2004 at 5:38am, Salamander wrote:
RE: longsword prof and 1h use
Tash wrote: Holding on to the reins of your horse is another good use of your off hand. That's about the only time my longsword wielding character goes to 1 hand use.
If I recall, A well trained Charger, Courser or Destrier were all capable of recieving commnd through the stirrups, spurs and even a few sounds. So this would make the one handed use of a longsword an option, not mandatory...