Since May of 2004, Fastlane's online sales have been... well, dismal.

In total, since May 1st, I've sold 8 copies of the print version of Fastlane through Lulu (including one to myself), 2 copies of the PDF through Lulu, and 6 copies of the PDF through Rpgnow.

Yes, that's total.

At GenCon Indy, over the course of 4 days, I sold 18 print copies of Fastlane - along with another 6 that were shipped to Eero in Finland (I still need to get payment from him, but that's me dragging ass, not him). At GenCon SoCal, I sold 10 more books over the course of 4 days (heck, in 3 days, really, considering how slow Sunday was). Sure, some of those at Indy were purchases by booth people, but even so...

Fastlane is a good game. I know this. Those who read it seem to have more good words about it than bad ones. At conventions, I seem to do reasonable sales, yet otherwise I just sorta suck.

Does anyone have any tips? Things I could be doing better? Things I should stop doing? Things I should START doing? I'd love to get this game out to more people...

I do plan on applying to the Indie Press Revolution, as it seems like a very good co-op sorta place to deal with, and I think that might very well help my online print sales (which may or may not help PDF sales). I also know that having MORE products will help with cross-selling within them, and I am working on that. So, that's the extent of what I'm doing now... what am I missing?

Do you have any online reviews at, say, RPGnet or Gaming Report, or any of the other sites that host reviews? If not, try and get some. Reviews (from everything I've heard) are great advertisements. I don't know this from personal experience, though - it's just what I've heard.

The other thing to do is maintain a presence on public message boards, mentioning your game when appropriate. You want to be careful not to push your game, though. Just contribute meaningfully to various conversations, and when a mention of your game would assist the conversation, go for it. Don't suggest people buy it; simply use it as an example. M.J. Young is the jedi master of this technique.

Also, change your sig into a mini advertisement for the game. Instead of just having the link to Twisted Confessions, put something like the following:

Fastlane - the game of this and this and that, too! Click for details!

Those are my suggestions. Hope they're helpful.

Edit: Double question mark typo removed

Hello,

I've been intrigued by the game, but to be honest your web site hurts my eyes. How about a redesign, some more contrasting colors for the text and background, and perhaps bring the focus of the site to Fastlane, with links to the other stuff. I.e. give Fastlane the entire home page, and hype it every way you can. I'd be glad to assist with a re-design should you be interested in help?

Reviews are very important in my mind, especially a Forge or RPG.net review - IMO. Linking to reviews and Actual Play stories from you web site will also help sell the game, I know I'm a sucker for this tactic.

Ethan is spot on with his message board ethics and sig advertisements.

TTFN,

Yokiboy

You need buzz. Buzz. BUZZZZZZzzZZzz... Well, you get the idea.

Consider: I bought those copies of the game as a lark. "Why not, it's a Forge game!", more than because I was convinced that it's good. Compare with, say, Universalis, which I had to have because everybody has played it and written about it and it's full of goodness in the Forge and elsewhere. I've not yet got my hands on the Fastlanes, but it's quite possible that it's a better game than Universalis. Even rather likely, considering my preferences.

So start handcrafting some buzz. That's what sells in the net, everything else from a web page to link exhanges are secondary.

How to get the buzz? Take a look at how other games have gained their wings and learn from that. Flamewars seem to be good, as are reviews. Craft some of the latter at least. Actually, all important buzz can be categorized as a review: whether it's an actual play report or a theory thread in the Forge or a flamewar in RPGnet, it's all about reviewing your game from some perspective. So get people to post reviews in different formats. Heck, do it yourself with a false name if nobody else will! I'll write a review when the books arrive if you want.

Buzz creates buzz creates buzz, so assuming that your game has merit, you don't have to do much after the first big coverage.

The goal is to be enshrined as an example of a certain kind of game. Take Trollbabe, for example: when talking about, say, feminism, or what's mainstream in roleplaying, or first-time players, Trollbabe will more than likely pop up if the participants of the discussion have any idea at all about the scene. And that popping up means sales.

So the question you should ask first is, does Fastlane have the bulk for status in par with the favourites? If not, perhaps with the second-stringers? In any case, what's the slot it fits in? What kind of theoretical or thematic discussion will it be that takes up Fastlane as an example?

Thanks to all who've answered so far! Here's my encapsulated response, which hopefully covers everything that's been said.

Reviews
I have exactly one online review so far, over at Silven Crossroads ( http://www.silven.com/otherrpgs.asp?case=show&id=437 ), written by someone who's actually played in a demo. I've contacted a few people about reviews, but so far they've fallen through. I should get back on that. Is it wrong to really prefer a playtest review? So far that's been the focus of my search, eschewing the more traditional "capsule" review.

Presence on Boards
I've been lax in posting on rpg.net since my switch to a night-shift job, but I've begun starting up again. Besides that, what other public message gaming boards ARE there, really?

I'll definitely be taking your advice on changing my signature too, ethan. At least on rpg.net - here I'd rather be more "professional" so to speak, which means the bare minimum (name, links).

Website
Thanks for your comments, Yokiboy! I'd rather not change the actual color scheme of my website, but I have brightened the red somewhat, and finally figured out how to change those godawful blue headers the news program was automatically generating, hopefully that will help?

I am taking your other comments to heart - i.e. giving Fastlane more space on the front page, etc. I should have thought of that a long time ago. Thanks for the offer on the redesign - I'm gonna try it myself first and see how bad I mess it up. Then we'll see how much help I need. ;)

That said - what should I do once I publish MORE games? It seems like it might get cluttered if I showcase EVERY game. I suppose I'll get to that when the time comes.

I'll post here again when the re-design is live, so y'all can run over and see it. All 3 of you. ;)

Buzz
Yeah, I know I need more buzz. Hopefully, I won't need flamewars to get the buzz (and if I do get buzz through flamewars, hopefully I'm not involved in them directly).

I suppose this answers my earlier question - perhaps I should stop eschewing the 'capsule' review and troll more aggressively for any rpg.net review at all.

As an aside, how were the books shipped to you, Eero, that they haven't arrived yet?! Should I be worried? Oh, I've almost (finally) gotten my Paypal account Verified, which should allow you to finally send me payment for the books. I'll send you a PM when that happens.

New look to the web-site (at least to the Fastlane portions of it). Please criticize all you want, it's good for me! I've emailed all the people I've quoted letting them know, and hopefully nobody has any objections to the quotes in question (all harvested from rpg.net's forums). I've also updated my rpg.net signature to be slightly more of an advert, without (hopefully) being overly so. I'll hopefully be nabbing a reviewer from there soon - I've given up looking only for 'playtest' reviewers.

On another note - right now I link to quite a few rpg publishing companies on my links page, many of them from the forge, 'cause I think they're good. What's the protocol for asking "Hey, would you link back to me?" 'Cause for some reason, it seems wrong to just outright say it, kinda akin to begging. Of course, this falls under the assumption that cross-linking is a good thing and can help boost things like sales, or at least overall awareness. Is this true?

Lxndr wrote:
Buzz
Yeah, I know I need more buzz. Hopefully, I won't need flamewars to get the buzz (and if I do get buzz through flamewars, hopefully I'm not involved in them directly).

Lxndr wrote: New look to the web-site (at least to the Fastlane portions of it). Please criticize all you want, it's good for me!

I definitely invite criticism, and thanks for the reply, Yokiboy.

I've considered going with a more roulette-themed site overall, but as I do plan on releasing games that have nothing to do with the wheel in the future (and have several on the site already, like Snowball), I decided against biasing the entire site design towards one game. Maybe that's thinking too far ahead?

As for the link color, again I've brightened the unvisited-link color somewhat (the visited link color is somewhat darker). Perhaps now that I've switched to a sans-serif font (again at your recommendation - wow, I've just taught myself the beginnings of stylesheets, roxxors) it'll be easier to read. I'd rather keep them different colors, as not all browsers are set up to automatically underline links, and people can (and do) turn off that feature.

As for bundling with roulette wheels, I'm still working on that. But yeah, it doesn't absolutely require one, even if I strongly recommend using one for the full experience.

Eero>

Yeah, I know. I need to find a good pitch, a good core for the game. But I'm not a good salesman, so I'm still working on it. Buzz buzz buzz.

Lxndr wrote: Yeah, I know. I need to find a good pitch, a good core for the game. But I'm not a good salesman, so I'm still working on it. Buzz buzz buzz.

Yokiboy wrote:
Okay, with the roulette theme, and calling the game Fastlane, you already appeal to gamblers and people considering themselves to be living on the edge - so to speak. Most gamers would like to fit into that category, IMO, so it shouldn't be that hard to market, if it can back it up with content.

Eero Tuovinen wrote:

Yokiboy wrote:
Okay, with the roulette theme, and calling the game Fastlane, you already appeal to gamblers and people considering themselves to be living on the edge - so to speak. Most gamers would like to fit into that category, IMO, so it shouldn't be that hard to market, if it can back it up with content.

Then again, IMO those are really weak points to build upon. Those are general thematic things, and here the mainstream vs. indie issue comes to fore: mainstream has the color market cornered. If you sell your game with it's color, you're essentially saying "Hey bubbo, check out my color, it's better than Exalted! And no, I'm not gonna burn you with another game that'll gonna just sit on your self, why you ask?" Things like "living on the edge" and such are what every game wants to sell, and what they claim to sell. Just read the cover copy for new WoD: I haven't the faintest what's in it, but likely it's something about living on the edge or some other buzzword.

In short, Fastlane takes full advantage of the roulette betting system.

What this means is, Fastlane doesn't just use the wheel as a fancy randomizer with numbers from 0 to 36, it actually takes advantage of the odds of the available roulette bets. This is why it doesn't actually require the wheel (as long as you can reproduce its effects, hence the six-siders alternative), although for color/style, it's obviously better if you have one. You probably want a mat, on the other hand, which is why I have one available for download on my site.

The fact that it takes advantage of roulette's betting, rather than using the wheel as a gimmick, has rather far-reaching implications, as it puts the riskiness of any given contest almost entirely in the hands of the player(s) - and since the house percentage is the same for every bet on the table, as one increases the risk, the potential rewards scale appropriately.

Players who want to play it (relatively) safe can put their chips on outside bets - even going so far as to play almost completely diceless. Conversely, players can put their chips on the inside, where the payout numbers increase as dramatically as their chances fail - and when their number comes up, things will go very well for them. Since most cases have players bidding multiple chips, they can (and often do, in practice) mix strategies, laying a firm foundation on the outside, then throwing a few chips on the inside "just in case."

At the same time, Fastlane takes advantage of the house percentage - or in layman's terms, the fact that most gambling is designed for casinos to make money, not the gamblers. On average, you will lose more than you win, something that's against many mainstream games, which seem to assume a rather steady amassing of power over time. Conversely, Fastlane emphasizes the house percentage by having statistics degrade over time, encouraging players to reach higher, in order to break even. The assumption in Fastlane is that eventually, you will burn out (which is the character endgame), so what are you going to do along the way?

Chips are the only advancement system in the game, and the only way to use them to better yourself is to play the game. Not only does your take from every conflict help you win said conflict, but your winnings are also the only chance you have to increase your statistics, and your bank, both of which are important to your overall character's "power." There's no XP handed out between sessions, banked and then spent as appropriate - the numbers on the character sheet are expected to change after every single conflict, sometimes subtly, and other times in violent upheavals.

So, that's me babbling about Fastlane. Is that a good start?

Hey Alexander. I remixed your post - how do you feel about that? A true bona fide pitch is One Perfect Sentence, but that can be made later.

Fastlane doesn't require the wheel, but takes full advantage of the roulette betting system, as it puts the riskiness entirely in the hands of the players. As one increases the risk, the potential rewards scale.

Players who want to play it safe can put their chips on outside bets, or they can put their chips on the inside, where the payout numbers increase as dramatically as their chances fail - and when their number comes up, things will go very well for them. Mix strategies! Lay a firm foundation on the outside, then throw a few chips on the inside "just in case."

At the same time, Fastlane takes advantage of the house percentage - on average, you will lose more than you win. Fastlane is encouraging players to reach higher, in order to break even. The assumption in Fastlane is that eventually, you will burn out, so what are you going to do along the way?

Danny Crighton always thought Lady Luck was an easy score.

Unfortunately for him, Luck's no Lady.

CASH IN. BURN OUT. LIVE FAST. FASTLANE
Storygaming on the Big Wheel. Check out the demo at 7pm.
Yes, roulette-wheels with each order.

Quick note about reviews:

The designer, of course, wants a playtest review - it's both an ad and valuable blindtesting comments at once.

The reviewer - myself, for example - might not have the time to play all the games he wants to read, but will still want the chance to look at new games; capsule reviews are much, much easier.

Main point: The reader, in general, doesn't even read the whole review. He'll typically see the name, and notice it if it comes up more than once. He might browse the review, paying special attention to the first and last paragraphs. From this, he'll make a decision whether or not he wants a real look at the game.

(Of course, there are readers out there who actually read whole reviews, try to understand the exact workings of the game from the review, etc. However, I believe that most just don't).

So - a capsule review is easier to get, and has pretty much the same potential for getting customers.

(Of course I understand that game designers are afraid that the reviewer won't "get" the feel of the game until he's played it. It's a valid concern; reviewers can make atrocious mistakes about how a game works. On the other hand, if the game text doesn't clearly show what's cool about the game, there's something wrong with the design. The game text is a secondary advertisement: It's supposed to lure the people who bought the game into actually playing it).

Dev,

Thanks for the remix - it does look good. As for Fastlane, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't sell easily online, it just hasn't so far. But yeah, it shines when you have a wheel to do a demonstration with (which is why I bring a rinky-dink little wheel to conventions). Unfortunately for me, a roulette layout does take some space to set up, which can work against sharing a boothspace (I was constantly setting up and taking down the mat).

I still bring one miniature wheel to conventions, so I can run demos (sadly, I ran less demos than I could have at SoCal, with a small booth and my loatheness to leave it - I'm still relatively new to conventions, though, and hopefully as I continue to get my feet wet, I'll be able to schedule all that better, run some after-hours full-sized games 2-4 hours in length, and stuff).

I'm currently looking into some KEYCHAIN-sized fully-useable roulette wheels but I'm first going to order one for myself to make sure that it works. If they DO work, that'll be the simplest and least-overhead way to transport them (since they're so small, in theory, being keychain-sized). My only problem is, shipping increases the price by almost 100% if I buy just one, which just seems like such a total rip-off. It just seems so very hard to find miniature roulette wheels online for some reason, which is rather perplexing to me.

I know someone suggested going to vegas conventions, but sadly I can't afford to go to a convention like that, especially if it's not, y'know, our kind of gaming. I can only share a booth, and I doubt too many other rpg-gamers will be creating a booth at a gambling con. So, well, blah.

matthias,

Your points are well-argued. Would you be interested in doing a capsule review of the Fastlane PDF?

Lxndr wrote: Your points are well-argued. Would you be interested in doing a capsule review of the Fastlane PDF?

Dev and Alexander wrote: At the same time, Fastlane takes advantage of the house percentage - on average, you will lose more than you win. Fastlane is encouraging players to reach higher, in order to break even. The assumption in Fastlane is that eventually, you will burn out, so what are you going to do along the way?

Dev wrote: I can see this as a game that can be an easy sell for making gaming look "cool" to people who are entirely new to the shtick. (Gambling is cool, roulette wheels are cool, playing as sexy desperate people might be cool.)

Dev wrote: CASH IN. BURN OUT. LIVE FAST. FASTLANE
Storygaming on the Big Wheel. Check out the demo at 7pm.
Yes, roulette-wheels with each order.

Yoki>

In Fastlane, every character has meta-attributes called Life. They can have only one, but are usually encouraged to have more. Life is the what the character would fill in the following blank:

__________ is/was/are/were my Life!

Anyway, Life can be used in any conflict, either by putting it on the line to get a bonus, or by having it threatened. The Croupier (GM) can decide that a Life is involved, but the player is the one that decides on what side it's involved. If it's put on the line, and you lose, your Life drops by one (if you win, it remains the same). If it's threatened, and you win, your Life rises by one (if you lose, it remains the same).

Lifes are expected to go to zero, then rise back up again. But if ALL a character's Life scores are at zero simultaneously, he's completely disconnected from the things that he holds most dear, and he burns out. That character gets one last scene, basically his swan song, and then he's retired from play.

Since players get to decide when their Life is on the line, Burn Out is almost entirely in their hands. (Life values can also be removed from people if all their other statistics are humbled down to zero).

So, yeah, that's Burning Out in a nutshell. :)

Hm. People who are new to the schtick as in gambling, or as in rpg gaming? And if the latter, any ideas on how to appeal to non-rpg-gamers? That's always been one of my weak points... Running demos in stores, hmmm..

I do love the stickers/flyers/etc suggestion. I'll have to take advantage of that, somehow.

Thanks Alexander, for your efforts I'm ordering your game. I did do a quick search on Pricerunner and found a few different inexpensive roulette wheels. I'll let you know what I think of it after I've had time to test it.

TTFN,

Yokiboy

Lxndr wrote: Hm. People who are new to the schtick as in gambling, or as in rpg gaming? And if the latter, any ideas on how to appeal to non-rpg-gamers?

Dev wrote: Danny Crighton always thought Lady Luck was an easy score.

Unfortunately for him, Luck's no Lady.

CASH IN. BURN OUT. LIVE FAST. FASTLANE
Storygaming on the Big Wheel. Check out the demo at 7pm.
Yes, roulette-wheels with each order.

Dev wrote:

Lxndr wrote: Hm. People who are new to the schtick as in gambling, or as in rpg gaming? And if the latter, any ideas on how to appeal to non-rpg-gamers?

I think I meant those new to RPGs, or at least less commited/familiar with it. I'm not experienced with that outreach either, but I think you could say that playing sexy characters on a Roulette wheel might be an easier first-sell than point-builds and dice. (Maybe.)

I just picked up a mini-roullete wheel - Jet Set Roulette, by Toysmith. It was about $10; we'll see how durable it is.