Topic: Samurai Badges: Actual play
Started by: Tony Irwin
Started on: 1/4/2005
Board: Actual Play
On 1/4/2005 at 11:24pm, Tony Irwin wrote:
Samurai Badges: Actual play
I wrote Samurai Badges with Step On Up! play in mind. It is a GMless game where players take turns to propose challenges for each other’s samurai characters. The competition is at the Step On Up level with players trying to manipulate challenges and resolutions in order to convert character attribute tokens into Glory and Honour. Glory and Honour can be spent to buy achievement badges and progress the game through a time line. There’s heavy meta-game, lots of resource management crunch, and very strict narration rights. I think Samurai Badges most resembles games in the “Gimme some story” category in Ron Edward's “Gamism: Step On Up” essay.
Samurai Badges is unashamedly gamist, here's a quote from the introduction: “As you narrate the imaginary adventures of a samurai hero, the other players will suggest dangerous opponents and situations for your samurai to encounter. They’ll encourage you to risk more and more of what your samurai holds dear in pursuit of glory and honour. Your progress in the game will be determined by your own expertise. Your mastery of the rules, your ability to work with other players, and the brilliance of your own imagination will all be tested and rewarded."
Samurai Badges has many influences including The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (James Wallis, out of print), Universalis, Paladin, The Questing Beast, and Legend of the Five Rings. Samurai Badges is available free for download from my site, here.
Recently my dad was good enough to run through a game with me and we had a great time. Rather than do a blow by blow account of each scene in the game, I’m going to just go through the character and clan creation and then discuss which bits came into the game. Here’s how it went.
First off we created characters.
My dad’s:
Tenko
Soul attributes: Poet, believes in individual freedom, a writing set given to him by his now dead sister.
Kith & Kin attributes: His father, his orphaned neice, the Imperial Chancellor.
Empire attributes: The Imperial rising sun flag, the Tiger Clan, the river Shanjo.
My character:
Hanko Hattori
Soul attributes: The samurai code, a sword lined with silver, he’s a painter, his favourite purple kimono.
Kith & Kin attributes: His yari (spear) sensei named Miko, his horse, a tea master named Hoshi.
Empire attributes: Mount Fuji, the Imperial Throne, the Falcon Clan, the Red Lotus Organisation.
Characters in play.
Its really only in Distract actions that the specific attributes come into play but we depended on them a lot in Attack actions as well. I think the game requires so much immediate imagination that its useful to have a list of ideas in the form of attributes right in front of you. That goes for your opponent too, as challenging player I had great fun putting Tenko’s niece in constant danger in a sequence of scenes, starting uprisings in the Tiger Clan, and leading Tenko to a show down at the river Shanjo. I think the attributes provide pre-made colour for the game, a resource that both players can draw upon. We know its safe to involve these things because we’ve already established their existence, and the manner in which we want them used, before the game begins. Also there were some nice cross overs, my character Hanko was also drawn to the river Shanjo and I had Tenko become a target of the Red Lotus Organisation.
In Distract actions the “innocent” attributes worked great. Tenko’s little niece and Henko’s horse were constant in trouble. Having our own clans as Empire attributes was great, we each enjoyed making the other’s character choose between loyalty to Japan and loyalty to the clan. We had all kinds of fun with the Distract dillemas – pose them right and they were really vexing problems which demanded some real ingenuity to turn around and take advantage of. Does this mean that Attack actions are too “lite”? Actually I think the simplicity of Attack actions is probably needed, you need to get some easy back and forth play going until an opportunity for a great Distract action opens up in front of you.
Next we created our clans.
My dad made the Tiger Clan, with Ju Jitsu as its most glorious deed, compassion as its most honourable virtue, torture as its most inglorious deed, and fear as its most dishonourable virtue.
I made the Falcon Clan, with tea ceremony as its most glorious deed, and polite courtesy its most honourable virtue. Sabotage is its most inglorious deed and desire its most dishonourable virtue.
Clans in play
We both had fun winning our own clans’ badges and trying for each others’ as well. Unfortunately lots of wooliness in my rules about what exactly the inglorious deeds and dishonourable virtues are for meant they didn’t come into play. The identity and rivalry of the two clans evolved naturally through play.
Time lines
For our time lines we decided to have 8 events and both left 6 of them blank. My dad had “A plague sweeps through Japan, 10 percent of the population die; 25 percent are contaminated and have to be isolated by setting up plague towns” in box 4, and in box 7 he had “A change in government sees a redistribution of wealth. Most wealthy people lose forty percent of their assets. Riots and looting follow.”
I had “The prophecies of Hoki are discovered in a forgotten chamber in the Imperial Library. They predict that the Empire will be destroyed in flames” in box 3 and in box 6 I had “Mount Kuma, a dormant volcano, erupts! Thousands are slain and the tremors are felt right across Japan.
Time lines in play
I was ahead for most of the game so while both of my dad’s time line events came up, only one of mine appeared. These were really exciting, they injected so much life into the game. It was tense listening to the other player describe the latest event to hit the Empire, and then fun as you considered how this would affect all the characters and setting that had developed through play. Like the attributes, they provided imaginative material that we could grab hold of and use to build more Attack and Distract actions that seemed “grounded” in the reality of the characters and setting. Also it provided great atmosphere – you really felt like the empire was disintegrating and it wouldn’t be long before the end came.
Finally we made the ancient oaths for our clans.
My dad’s was “I shall never be found performing torture on another and I shall never display fear. If I break this oath then the skills of Ju Jitsu shall disappear from the land, and the hearts of all samurai will be hardened.”
Mine was “I shall never be found performing sabotage and I shall never display desire. If I break this oath then the secrets of the tea ceremony will be forgotten and no samurai will bow to another.”
Oaths in play
The oaths were an easy way “into” our clans and characters at the start, but because I couldn’t remember (or understand from my own rules) what to do with inglorious deeds and dishonourable virtues, neither of our oaths were activated.
Summary
All in all we had a wonderful time, there’s real fun in hounding the other player, and genuine delight when the other player twists the situation around with an unexpected comeback. There was much more to our game than what I’ve described here, for instance we had a couple of duels and tests, the end-game where our characters recount the histories in their time-lines was hilarious, and the Samurai Verdicts part was great too. There's still more to do though, play highlighed many aspects of the game that need to be reworked and passages in the rule book that need clarified.
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On 1/5/2005 at 4:15pm, Yokiboy wrote:
RE: Samurai Badges: Actual play
Sounds cool Tony, but could you please share a bit more of the actual play events? It seems your write-up mainly entails the prep and character creation, apart from a few comments. How about detailing a little bit more of how you challenged your dad with his character's niece stirring up trouble?
TTFN,
Yokiboy
On 1/5/2005 at 4:43pm, Tim Alexander wrote:
RE: Samurai Badges: Actual play
Hey Tony,
Sounds like a fun time. Like Yokiboy I'd like a little more play detail, and I'm especially curious to know where you had trouble. You mention that play highlited some areas that need some cleaning up, what were they?
Thanks,
-Tim
On 1/11/2005 at 12:26am, Tony Irwin wrote:
RE: Samurai Badges: Actual play
Tim Alexander wrote: Hey Tony,
Sounds like a fun time. Like Yokiboy I'd like a little more play detail, and I'm especially curious to know where you had trouble. You mention that play highlited some areas that need some cleaning up, what were they?
Thanks,
-Tim
Duels and tests needed to be sorted out - you're not supposed to be able to duel or test until you've bought a badge twice over (the idea being that you've attained a real mastery in it), but we found it took us quite a while to get to that stage. Dueling and Testing was a really great part of the game but we were left wanting more, so I rewrote it that you start with mastery in a few badges allowing you to duel and test from the outset. (I also think that choosing a few badges to start with will help to define characters better and make it easier to think up appropriate challenges for them).
The other thing is that you use dice to duel/test but actually earning the dice is quite slow going. Once you get into a duel the few dice you have are used rather quickly. Again we felt that this fun aspect to the game deserved to be prolonged, I hope to find a way for all players to go into duels with many more dice.
The dishonourable virtues and inglorious deeds rules are a mess, and it held up the game while I fussed around trying to remember what on earth they were meant to be doing. Originally they were a way to opt out of duels, then I rewrote them as an alternative means of gaining honour or glory. Rather than using them to just modify one of the sub-games, I think I'd like to rewrite them as their own sub-game, perhaps a big gamble you can use right before the end of the game.
Thinking about it - the toughest thing was that the game felt like GMing with no prep. When we got on a roll and kept throwing sequences of challenges at each other it was awsome - more challenging fun than the wargames like Risk or Age of Imperialism that we'll play each other at occasionally, but there were times when my mind just went blank for what felt like 5 minutes at a time. That's why the time-lines were so great because they threw in new material you could riff off of. I think it needs some kind of planning phase at the start where we consider suitable challenges for the characters, and it could probably be done again after each round of play so we could recap what had happened and consider how that changes things in the Empire. Action Phase - Resolution Phase - Planning Phase. It would be good to make it part of the game somehow (in the way that Universalis's tenets phase is part of play) rather than interrupting the flow of competition.
On 1/11/2005 at 1:01am, Tony Irwin wrote:
RE: Samurai Badges: Actual play
Yokiboy wrote: Sounds cool Tony, but could you please share a bit more of the actual play events? It seems your write-up mainly entails the prep and character creation, apart from a few comments. How about detailing a little bit more of how you challenged your dad with his character's niece stirring up trouble?
TTFN,
Yokiboy
Sorry about that - I was worried I'd get bogged down in explaining all the mechanics so I tried to keep it brief.
Yeah, the niece thing was really funny. My dad's character had an orphaned niece as one of his Kith and Kin attributes. One of my first attack actions had been describing a night-time uprising in his samurai's province and the city going up in flames. He narrated an episode about how his samurai grabbed his niece on the way out and they escaped to safety. He obviously enjoyed playing the hero so after that I had fun in every attack action putting not just him but the niece in danger as well, from bandits, assassins, traitors, and plague bearers. Best of all were the "Soul" attacks where rather than being hindered by an external problem the battle is internal, so I was able to narrate the thoughts of self-doubt and guilt his samurai felt at bringing his niece into one danger after another, and then smirk to myself as my dad tried to narrate his samurai ignoring and overcoming such thoughts without seeming like a heroic idiot who didn't care if this little girl got killed. It was a laugh - one of the things my dad said he enjoyed was the sense of "hounding" the other player. I had the other end of the stick when my samurai's affiliation to a secret organisation (Red Lotus) meant he kept getting into sticky situations where he had to choose between loyalty to the clan/empire/organisation. It was in Distract Actions that this stuff worked best, where narrating a problem in a clever way means you can force the player to choose between having their samurai look good, or winning glory and honour. But you have to time it for when the other player needs the glory/honour so you know they'll accept whatever disastrous consequences to their character that you decide upon.
Of course every time the other's samurai made appalling decisions for the sake of Glory and Honour, we would write up the event in our History of the Empire time-lines. During end game you have to read out your History in a presentation to the chancellor and that's when I got to hear all over again about how callously my despicable samurai let his horse die and shamefully betrayed his own clan for the Red Lotus organisation and then even betrayed the Red Lotus organisation for the sake of his own fame. It was a hoot.
On 1/11/2005 at 10:34am, Yokiboy wrote:
RE: Samurai Badges: Actual play
Tony Irwin wrote: Of course every time the other's samurai made appalling decisions for the sake of Glory and Honour, we would write up the event in our History of the Empire time-lines. During end game you have to read out your History in a presentation to the chancellor and that's when I got to hear all over again about how callously my despicable samurai let his horse die and shamefully betrayed his own clan for the Red Lotus organisation and then even betrayed the Red Lotus organisation for the sake of his own fame. It was a hoot.
That sounds great Tony. Have you updated the PDF on your web site, with the findings from your own play test?
TTFN,
Yokiboy
On 1/11/2005 at 2:35pm, Tony Irwin wrote:
RE: Samurai Badges: Actual play
Yokiboy wrote: Have you updated the PDF on your web site, with the findings from your own play test?
TTFN,
Yokiboy
Mostly ... I made a lot of changes but still haven't sorted out the dishonourable/inglorious stuff and how to trigger the ancient oaths.