Topic: Hierarchy of the Shitstorm & Doctrine
Started by: Joshua BishopRoby
Started on: 10/19/2005
Board: lumpley games
On 10/19/2005 at 11:50pm, Joshua BishopRoby wrote:
Hierarchy of the Shitstorm & Doctrine
Is the Pride -> Injustice -> Sin -> parts I don't remember -> Hate and Murder thing a strictly OOC setup, or is it an in-character understood element of the Faith's doctrine? To put a finer point on it, should Dogs be walking into a town, finding out what level it's at, and then rooting down level-by-level, conferring with eachother as they call things 'Sin', 'Injustice', and 'Pride'?
...or is this a decision made group-by-group (the likely answer)?
On 10/20/2005 at 12:51pm, Iskander wrote:
Re: Hierarchy of the Shitstorm & Doctrine
The heirarchy's spelled out both in Creating Towns for GMs (p. 95 et seq.), but also in Creating Characters: A Dog's Duties (pp. 42-43), so I understand it as explicit player and character knowledge.
(page references GenCon '05 Ed.)
On 10/20/2005 at 4:08pm, Brand_Robins wrote:
RE: Re: Hierarchy of the Shitstorm & Doctrine
Yea, in the Cgen section it says, after the list, "Knowing this makes your character a theologian" -- so I think chracters do know it ICly.
I haven't, however, always had players who went looking for it with deliberation. Some groups do, others are more interested in finding sins and judging them individually rather than by running down the heirarchy.
Be interesting to see what our current group does, eh Josh?
On 10/20/2005 at 5:35pm, Joshua BishopRoby wrote:
RE: Re: Hierarchy of the Shitstorm & Doctrine
The other players and their "Find sin, shoot in face" SOP are scaring me. Especially my wife. ;)
On 10/20/2005 at 5:39pm, Brand_Robins wrote:
RE: Re: Hierarchy of the Shitstorm & Doctrine
Joshua wrote:
The other players and their "Find sin, shoot in face" SOP are scaring me. Especially my wife. ;)
Yea, well we'll see if I can make the characters in the town so very human and understandably FUBARed that actually pulling the trigger becomes real damn hard....
On 10/20/2005 at 6:07pm, Iskander wrote:
RE: Re: Hierarchy of the Shitstorm & Doctrine
Ay, there's the rub, Brand.
I find it much easier to spin off into a cycle of sin, demonic influence and general badness than to make sure the players are faced with sympathetic sinners.
But it's early days for me, yet.
On 10/20/2005 at 6:11pm, Brand_Robins wrote:
RE: Re: Hierarchy of the Shitstorm & Doctrine
Iskander wrote: I find it much easier to spin off into a cycle of sin, demonic influence and general badness than to make sure the players are faced with sympathetic sinners.
Yea, my track record there is mixed. As Josh can tell you I have a tendancy as a GM to drop bombs and always go for the INTENSITY IN TEN CITIES plots. This is at odds with the low grade, subtle, and human turmoil that often works best in a Dogs town that is pre-False Priesthood. I've done it well a couple times, flubbed it once, and come out even a few times.
This game will be online, which is both better (I AM WR1T0R!) and worse (no visual emotional clues).
On 10/21/2005 at 2:03am, Joshua BishopRoby wrote:
RE: Re: Hierarchy of the Shitstorm & Doctrine
Brand_Robins wrote: This game will be online, which is both better (I AM WR1T0R!) and worse (no visual emotional clues).
Yeah, but with our players, we'll all probably be more comfortable in that venue than face-to-face. I mean, I certainly wouldn't be genderbending if it was tabletop.