Another game of the Roach last night.  In case you were wondering, there was a wonderful conflict over who, among the 100% Roach-infested PCs, got to sacrifice Regina Sutton to the Dark Gods.  Would it be the off-kilter football coach and his death squad of mind-controlled tight ends?  The horribly burned Hindi mathematician?  The orientalist aesthete with the co-ed cultists?  She ended up ritually murdered, but that didn't stop her from finishing up the semester as some kind of undead priestess on the honor roll.  Then it got a little weird. 

We had three players familiar with the game, one experienced gamer (and college professor), and one guy who hasn't played anything but D&D, and that long, long ago.  I was very interested in his experience and interaction, and was pleasantly surprised.  He took to the free-wheeling style of play pretty well, although he struggled with involving his PC in other player's conflicts a bit.  His own conflicts were pretty cool, although inwardly oriented - over multiple events, he managed to get his Roached-up drama teacher to kill and replace the Chancellor, then lose his mind and try to turn Pemberton into a feudal kingdom straight out of Shakespeare's histories.  It was pretty funny. 

Anyway, I saw some mildly unsatisfying play emerge that seemed worth commenting on.  I am not sure if these are bugs or features, and it is a little late in the game to make massive rules changes, but it's interesting to think about.

First, one player (the sensualist Asia-phile with the adoring cult), through sheer luck, gained a commanding lead in Reputation that never faltered.  He started Roached, powered through, and drew a Roach card to shed the thing in the final Event, winning handily.  No one ever had a chance, even though we ganged up on him.  This was an unlikely turn of events, and thematically appropriate, but the game lacked the endgame uncertainty that is usually so fun.

Second, I experienced again the tooth-kicking that results from trying to stay Roach-free.  It just isn't a great option - again thematically appropriate, and I want the temptation to invite a Roach in to be there constantly, but in several games I've tried this strategy and it seems like a certain recipe for failure.  Bug or feature?  Hmm.

I'm testing the game with three 100% non-gamers tomorrow, so expect another Actual Play report on that soon.

--Jason

Jason wrote:
Anyway, I saw some mildly unsatisfying play emerge that seemed worth commenting on.  I am not sure if these are bugs or features, and it is a little late in the game to make massive rules changes, but it's interesting to think about.

First, one player (the sensualist Asia-phile with the adoring cult), through sheer luck, gained a commanding lead in Reputation that never faltered.  He started Roached, powered through, and drew a Roach card to shed the thing in the final Event, winning handily.  No one ever had a chance, even though we ganged up on him.  This was an unlikely turn of events, and thematically appropriate, but the game lacked the endgame uncertainty that is usually so fun.

Second, I experienced again the tooth-kicking that results from trying to stay Roach-free.  It just isn't a great option - again thematically appropriate, and I want the temptation to invite a Roach in to be there constantly, but in several games I've tried this strategy and it seems like a certain recipe for failure.  Bug or feature?  Hmm.

Clinton wrote:
2) Commanding leads and points. I really support rethinking bidding. My personal feeling is that you should have to risk at least half of your reputation on every scene that you start. Yes, this allows you to gain tremendous amounts of rep. It also forces you to risk losing it once you have it.

It seems to me that it isn't getting yer ass handed to you that's an issue.  What is an issue is when you get your ass handed to you and you can't imagine any way to turn the tables.  Especially when you have that feeling early on in the game.

An idea just popped to mind.  And it's kinda drastic, which means it's probably way to late to implement, but I'll fire it at you anyway.  What if you don't want your reputation to be too high?  I propose; At the beginning of any Event where your Reputation exceeds X the Roach takes notice of you and inhabits you.  Period. 

So, let's say that you set X at 10.  If you begin any Event with 10 Rep or better then you start out Roached if you weren't already.  This would create a balancing act of sorts.  It would create some interesting stuff towards the 5th Event where players are actually trying to -shed- Rep to get under X for the beginning of the final Event.

-Eric

Oh my God Eric, that's crazy.  In a good way.  It would add a huge level of tactical complexity to the game. I adore the idea of actively playing to lose conflicts, like throwing the cannons off a sinking ship.  Also could be worked into the theme just fine.  The key would be to peg the cut-off number perfectly - not too high, not too low.  You'd have to remove the "take the Roach any time" rule, I think - you'd have to draw it randomly or earn it by being a powerful bastard. 

Must consider.

A variant on that idea that would probably be easier to implement but might not give you the game strategy you want is to simply say that at the end of the game the roach automatically inhabits the player with the highest rep...so you'd be essentially playing to come in second place on the rep scale.  The solution then to someone with a run away rep would be simply...let them go...they're losing.

That wouldn't necessarily help if you routinely had games with 2 or three runaway players (although there would be tensions between them)

I'd hate to see the voluntary Roaching go away, though. In the game I played on Sunday, I was brutally de-reputationed in the first Event, left with 0. Taking on the Roach to get my revenge was SO much fun. I ended with 12 Rep, but Roached, at the end. It was totally worth it.

(AP coming. The Holidays ate my life.)

Good ideas all around.  Mark, if I changed the rule to disallow voluntary Roaching, you'd just have to work like a craven dog to build up your Reputation until the Roach noticed you, which could also be fun.  Delayed gratification and all that.  But I see your point - it should be easy to submit to the Roach.  Bring on the actual play! 

Valamir, all the "winning" is sort of a polite fiction to spur innate competitiveness.  As written, highest Roach-free rep = game winner (bragging rights).  Highest overall rep, Roach or not = epilogue narrator.  I want multiple fun goals regardless of Roachy status.  So I'd have to change the win conditions somehow if highest reputation = Roach to make it unappealing.  Hmm.

Clinton wrote:
1) Flunkies. I pulled this one in both games of the Roach so far, and the Asia-phile did last night from the beginning. I think part of his commanding lead had to do with the fact he controlled an entire bevy of people from the beginning of the game.

Jason wrote:
Oh my God Eric, that's crazy.  In a good way.  It would add a huge level of tactical complexity to the game. I adore the idea of actively playing to lose conflicts, like throwing the cannons off a sinking ship.  Also could be worked into the theme just fine.  The key would be to peg the cut-off number perfectly - not too high, not too low.  You'd have to remove the "take the Roach any time" rule, I think - you'd have to draw it randomly or earn it by being a powerful bastard. 

Must consider.

Just encountered the game yesterday and really enjoying the concept.  One question - if Player A is controlled by the Roach, and Player B voluntarily allows the Roach to take control of him, is Player A no longer controlled?  Since the Roach is described as "living in your sinus cavity," can multiple people be controlled by the Roach at the same time?  Thanks.

Hi Myrmidon,

The Roach has a posse.  Anybody and everybody can be controlled simultaneously, including (if your game goes that way) NPC's. 

--Jason

Jason wrote:
Valamir, all the "winning" is sort of a polite fiction to spur innate competitiveness.  As written, highest Roach-free rep = game winner (bragging rights).  Highest overall rep, Roach or not = epilogue narrator.  I want multiple fun goals regardless of Roachy status.  So I'd have to change the win conditions somehow if highest reputation = Roach to make it unappealing.  Hmm.

Sometimes I am slow.  Actually, Ralph, that's sort of elegant, because it guarantees the separation of those two "winners".  Usually in play they are different people, but not always - and when it is the same person, that's kind of a drag.

The only down side I can see to high rep = the Roach is the hope (and really, the fiction) that one can remain Roach-less and get the highest reputation. I think this hope might drive the game - I know it did for me the first time I played. For four acts, I tried my hardest to remain free of the Roach and still remain successful over the Roached professors. In the end, I failed, and I think you will almost always. But that false hope sure is fun.