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Topic: [Mortal Coil] Recess Game 1: Apocalypse Boulevard
Started by: inthisstyle
Started on: 1/17/2006
Board: Actual Play


On 1/17/2006 at 6:55pm, inthisstyle wrote:
[Mortal Coil] Recess Game 1: Apocalypse Boulevard

I ran Mortal Coil at the latest Recess game day in New York. There was time at the mini-convention for two sessions, and rather than run the same one twice, I decided to try two different scenarios. The first one was really successful. This concept was called Apocalypse Boulevard, a game world inspired by this article. The second game, and my problems with how it turned out, will be posted later.

Even though these were convention games, I started only with the most basic concept and then built the theme document with the players. The theme starts out with the basic premise of the campaign, and all of the players, including the GM, have a pool of resources to use to add to this document. Building the starting theme facts and characters took less than an hour. Even though I only had a four-hour slot, I think this step is really important and I probably won’t skip over it even for full convention demo games. Short booth demos would be a different matter, but there is plenty of time in a full session and this part earns much enthusiasm from the players, and everyone is really bought in to the game once we are done.

To start the theme document, I mentioned the article, which many of the other players had actually read, but a couple weren’t familiar with it. The gist, that kids in the shelter created their own religion, and had access to some magical powers to protect themselves from harmful forces that adults couldn’t see, were accepted by everyone. The other basic fact that was established was that all of the spells the children used would be based on nursery rhymes or fairy tales.

As the players began to put together characters, I advised them to create interlocking passions, so the characters would be tied together and it would encourage the group’s story to be about each other. The players definitely stepped up here, and we had many characters who loved and admired other player characters. There were a lot of passions for protecting each other, and protecting their parents (if they had any). This is great grist for the mill as a GM, since it was very easy to create a strong external threat to get everyone working together and focus the session.

Aptitudes, which stand in for skills (sort of) in the Mortal Coil system, are generally a hard concept to convey, but everybody in this session picked it up pretty quickly. I don’t recall explaining more than twice, which is good. In playtest, this section of the character has generally proved most troublesome for players to grasp. The main difficulty is that an aptitude is expressed as a noun, rather than a verb or adjective. For example, a kid can have an aptitude called liar, rather than the skill of lying or lie.

When actual play began, people really got into playing their kids, using kid-like interpretations of the world and celebrating the small victories they had over some clueless adults. Mortal Coil uses a pool of bonus tokens as a reward system, and the players have a lot of control over how these are handed out. These flowed easily in this game, and we had only a couple left in the pool in the end. Most of them were given for innovative or surprising uses of nursery rhymes and fairy tale references, so this really encouraged everyone to come up with creative uses of this setting fact and created some really strong flavor for the game.

The basics of plot were strong external threat, in the form of some skinheads (led by a demon in human form). One of the kids picked the demon’s pocket in the first scene, and then the rest of the scenario was all about the skinheads trying to get the stolen artifacts back and the kids planning how to stop them from threatening the shelter and their families, as well as the other kids.

Mortal Coil has a currency system that allows players to add detail to the game world, and the few problems that arose were basically clashes of vision for the facts being introduced. These weren’t really problems, as they were quickly solved by consensus.

There was a divergence into some investigative activity at the library, a scene which would normally have been a bit tedious, but in fact ended up quite entertaining. Setting stakes for the information-gathering conflicts made them very interesting, and role-playing the poor librarian, confronted by some unsupervised kids with very uncomfortable questions about swastikas and the First Amendment made for an amusing scene.

The final conflict ended up a bit rushed, because I was running out of time, and I skipped over some of the villains’ actions and mostly concentrated on the demon alone, but that was a decision I made in the interests of time and the conflict seemed plenty exciting.

There were two main things I learned about the system in this game, which didn’t affect play too seriously, but that clearly need better clarification in the rules. First, large group conflicts will not always resolve in a single set of actions. Everyone declared actions and we determined the results, but once everything was resolved it was still unclear who would win the original stakes set for the conflict. I just had everyone initiate another round of actions, and then a third round when the conflict was still not resolved at the end of that. By the resolution of the third round of actions, the demon had decisively lost, and the kids won their stakes.

The other issue is how characters help one another. This isn’t clearly outlined in the rules, and it really needs to be. The system I used for this session wasn’t quite right, and I want to outline the precise procedure in the rules.

All in all, I don’t think the players really noticed this, especially with the first issue, since that played out how I would want, I just hadn’t written it down.

This was a very successful play test of the rules, and the players all seemed to have an excellent time. The rules were easy to explain and there were very few snags at all. That made me extremely happy, and I went into my next sessions with my hopes quite high. That session was something of a disaster in my mind, and worthy of its own post (coming shortly).

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On 1/17/2006 at 7:35pm, mtiru wrote:
Re: [Mortal Coil] Recess Game 1: Apocalypse Boulevard

I played in this game and it turned out well. What I enjoyed most was the ability we have to create the world, its facts, and its magickal properties before and during play. Everything has a complication - and I believe any suggested fact can be vetoed by other players.

One thing I noticed (I had to run and couldn't stay for the post game wrap up, so I apologize if this was brought up then) is how the conflict resolution system is comprised of mini-task resolution within a larger conflict resolution. So, for example, our intent for the conflict is to "Destroy the Demon" and in order for that to happen we have to actually inflict damage against him physically in our individual actions. What would have happened if we had been unable to hurt him?

The actual mechanics for resolving conflicts are interesting in that we distribute our points in secret - I write down that I'm distributing 9 points (from my Grace of 3, My Always Escape from Adults Aptitude of 2 and Passion for I'll protect my friends of 1 + 3 Action chips). Then the GM reveals what he has allocated to catch me. If there is a match, a bidding war ensues (or we draw and we both succeed slightly, right?) with bonus chips. The GM has more of those initially (but in long term play, the players will even up).

So, my question is: does the 9 points that I have distributed to "Escape" resolve any attempts to escape during this round? This is how the multiple opponent + multiple participant thing became slightly confusing.

In terms of help, we never quite sorted it out - if Bill had 8 successes and was only opposing the GMs 3, and his intent was to "distract the demon while Pedro kills it" does that negate the demons ability to affect Pedro, does it give Pedro a bonus? I think we all really wanted to help each other in this game - so making those things add up is going to make the game a great collaborative experience.

Are you going to run this one at dreamation?

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On 1/17/2006 at 8:07pm, inthisstyle wrote:
RE: Re: [Mortal Coil] Recess Game 1: Apocalypse Boulevard

mtiru wrote: I played in this game and it turned out well. What I enjoyed most was the ability we have to create the world, its facts, and its magickal properties before and during play. Everything has a complication - and I believe any suggested fact can be vetoed by other players.


Correct. Facts must pass muster with the other players to get added to the theme.

mtiru wrote: One thing I noticed (I had to run and couldn't stay for the post game wrap up, so I apologize if this was brought up then) is how the conflict resolution system is comprised of mini-task resolution within a larger conflict resolution. So, for example, our intent for the conflict is to "Destroy the Demon" and in order for that to happen we have to actually inflict damage against him physically in our individual actions. What would have happened if we had been unable to hurt him?


The tasks are all being harnessed in an effort to resolve the conflict. The reason we went three rounds of actions is that neither side had achieved enough to win their stakes. Until you inflict enough damage on him, the demon is not destroyed, and the conflict is not resolved. You go back into another round of action to try to achieve your goal.

mtiru wrote: So, my question is: does the 9 points that I have distributed to "Escape" resolve any attempts to escape during this round? This is how the multiple opponent + multiple participant thing became slightly confusing.


Your 9 points would be good against both of the antagonists chasing you, unless one was doing something like trying to force you to run closer to his friend, which would have been a helping maneuver. Basically, once you allocate your defense (running away in this case), anyone trying to catch you must overcome that defense.

mtiru wrote: In terms of help, we never quite sorted it out - if Bill had 8 successes and was only opposing the GMs 3, and his intent was to "distract the demon while Pedro kills it" does that negate the demons ability to affect Pedro, does it give Pedro a bonus? I think we all really wanted to help each other in this game - so making those things add up is going to make the game a great collaborative experience.


Yeah, this was the biggest hole I had at the moment. I need to clarify helping and make sure the rules for this work, since this was something people wanted to do all the time.

mtiru wrote: Are you going to run this one at dreamation?


I am on the schedule with Old Gods. I think Apocalypse Boulevard runs better at cons, but since I'm already in with Old Gods, I will give it another try. If I still can't get it to work, I will be switching to Apocalypse Boulevard or something else for future conventions.

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On 1/19/2006 at 9:29pm, phredd wrote:
RE: Re: [Mortal Coil] Recess Game 1: Apocalypse Boulevard

I also played in this session and liked it a lot.  The world building input worked very well, although in our case it was facilitated by many at the table understanding the miami shelter kids idea right off the bat.  It was interesting to hear how the tone of the Old Gods game at Recess was rendered grimmer than your previous playtest due to different facts being established.  For our game, I would have liked things to have been grimmer and more dire too, but input from the other players lightened things up a bit, IIRC, but this was a one shot, whereas for a longer running game there'd have been more time for more thorough hashing out of player priorities and explicit discussion of such issues.

While I liked the mechanics behind bonus tokens and their finite nature for the GM, during the end game I felt like you didn't have enough of them.  I kept my eye on your stack all through the game, and when the final confrontation came around it was clear to me that your demon and his thugs were not going to last very long.  And that was with your using the tokens sparingly to keep the antagonists in the game.  I don't think you'd have been able to do something really nasty to one of our characters if you had wanted to go in that direction.  So, I'd suggest looking at increasing the number of tokens you get and/or figuring out some other ways to stack the deck in your favor, at least at the outset, much like With Great Power does.  Laying down the smack on the players a few times before the big confrontation would have really built up the tension.

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On 1/19/2006 at 9:35pm, inthisstyle wrote:
RE: Re: [Mortal Coil] Recess Game 1: Apocalypse Boulevard

phredd wrote: While I liked the mechanics behind bonus tokens and their finite nature for the GM, during the end game I felt like you didn't have enough of them.  I kept my eye on your stack all through the game, and when the final confrontation came around it was clear to me that your demon and his thugs were not going to last very long.  And that was with your using the tokens sparingly to keep the antagonists in the game.  I don't think you'd have been able to do something really nasty to one of our characters if you had wanted to go in that direction.  So, I'd suggest looking at increasing the number of tokens you get and/or figuring out some other ways to stack the deck in your favor, at least at the outset, much like With Great Power does.  Laying down the smack on the players a few times before the big confrontation would have really built up the tension.


I also didn't use the thugs to their full potential, mostly in the interests of time (we went over about 10 minutes anyway). That said, I agree with you here, and I did make an adjustment to the rules after these sessions that will go a little way to rectifying this issue. I bumped the base difficulty up a bit, which makes unopposed conflicts harder (and as a GM I would have to spend fewer tokens to make a player fail), and I also changed the range of points which indicate victory. I still may bump the GM's pool of bonus tokens, too. It looks like a lot to start, but with six players I did get pounded on a bit.

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On 1/19/2006 at 10:19pm, Nathan P. wrote:
RE: Re: [Mortal Coil] Recess Game 1: Apocalypse Boulevard

Hey Brennan,

wrote: As the players began to put together characters, I advised them to create interlocking passions, so the characters would be tied together and it would encourage the group’s story to be about each other. The players definitely stepped up here, and we had many characters who loved and admired other player characters. There were a lot of passions for protecting each other, and protecting their parents (if they had any). This is great grist for the mill as a GM, since it was very easy to create a strong external threat to get everyone working together and focus the session.


That's awesome. I use a similar technique for Timestream (characters have to take an Anchor from another character as one of theirs, webbing them together), and it works quite, quite well. It really sucks (kinda) that our demos are at the exact same times, I would really like to check this game out!

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