Hi Vincent & crew, I am tempted to run a science-fiction verison of Dogs.  I've never run or played Dogs before, though, and I want to make sure I don't muck up the themes of the game while giving it a sci-fi facelift.

Here's my mod:
King of Life = humanism
Book of Life = human rights documents
The Faith = The United Planets (i.e., space UN)
Dogs = Field agents of the United Planets
The Towns = The Lost Colonies
Back East = The Core Worlds
Territorial Authority = The Core Fleets
Mountain People = Aliens

Now, I have a couple questions based on this:

Would it strain Dogs all that much if they had to settle matters in an un-Faithful town?  In this mod, the Lost Colonies have been independent for a while, and aren't crazy about the United Planets and the Core Worlds telling people what to do.  The "Dogs" have social influence and moral credibility, but dubious political authority. 

Would it strain Dogs to have marked differences in technology?  Like, the difference between Vincent's Tarkut chuckers, and Emily's 5th Gen Rasili ptimanya?  One of the themes I'd like to bring out is Progress, which has a scientific or technical component to it.  (In other words: if an entire planet is a century or two behind the times, can it be a planet full of "crappy _________ d4's"?)

Vincent, I also have two design questions:
* How does Ceremony relate to the themes of the game?  I'm using Progress/Humanism as the King of Life, which suggests Science! instead of the supernatural.  So I'm wondering what Ceremony might mean in this mod, and how it would tie into everything else.  (Right now, I'm speculating that the "Dogs" ship might be a source for this--it doesn't seem right to treat it as a Trait, Relationship, or Equipment.  But as a source for supernatural-ness, maybe...)

* How do Demons relate to the themes of the game?  I'm figuring that the outward signs of demons might be ignorance, war, poverty, disease, bigotry, etc.  And there's certainly room for evil alien invaders or space-pirates attacking the colony in the late stages of societal breakdown.  But I'm wondering how to tie it together.

Thanks!  I am really interested in giving this a try. 

Right now, this is how I'm thinking of handling the team's starship:

First, the starship has crew and related personnel, so that if someone doesn't have the trait "I'm a Dog" they can have "Crewman for the Dogs" as a relationship die.

Second, players can take relationship dice with the crew: it's a way to keep NPC's around from session to session, which in a game taking place over interstellar distances can often strain plausibility.

Third, the ship & crew are a source of Ceremony in an undefined way.  I still have to think about this, and would appreciate suggestions!

In most planet-side scenes, the starship is just there as a setting or prop with little importance.  In space scenes, the ship comes into its own.  It has Body and Acuity stats, representing its design & equipment.  It has the Will of whichever character has the best relationship with the starship.  It has the Heart of whichever character has the best "I'm a Dog" trait.  In conflicts, individual characters can contribute their Traits and Relationships normally, but the ship has none of its own.  Escalation goes from Hailing, Equipment (i.e., chasing, sensing, deflector fields, tractor beams, etc.), Dogfight, and Suicidal Maneuvers (i.e., plunging into asteroid fields, veering into the corona of a sun, passing through radiation belts).  I'm not sure how to distribute Fallout among the characters involved, but I figure that will come in time.

Any more thoughts on the thematic questions raised in the first post?

I have more thoughts than time just now. I'd love to hear what everyone else has to say. I'll talk about ceremony when I get a chance.

-Vincent

Hi!

I would look at a way to make the Dogs authority be internal to the society that they're policing.  Right now, they're like TA lawmen and sheriffs -- coming out from the core worlds to police the ragged frontier folk and get them into line.

What if the colonies are the humanists?  People who got away from the corporatist oppressors of the Core worlds to go out and form their own anarcho-socialist society based on mutual trust and shared joy in human progress.  The Dogs are an integral part of that society, making sure that the different groups communicate with each other, and keeping groups from getting too far out of hand.

The enforcers sent out from the United Planets are just corporatist thugs trying to make your worlds safe for investment and exploitation.  Or are they?  Maybe they see their way of doing things as better, and the communism of the humanists as really morally sketchy.

yrs--
--Ben

Ben, I think those changes would make it much more like the traditional Dogs set up, with possibly a lot more tension with the Territorial Authority.  I'm not convinced that's what I want, though, and here's why:

Thematically, I would like to run a game about the White Man's Burden.  (A bit of Kipling in there for you, Vincent!)  If we assume that there are some absolute standards of morality, what responsibilities do outsiders have to police societies/governments/cultures that don't measure up to the standard?  What happens when exercising this responsibility calls the "absolute standards of morality" into question?  See, e.g., Iraq, Afghanistan, Darfur.*

In classic DITV, the imperialism angle of this is suppressed somewhat: the Dogs share the same culture the townsfolk.  And while the Dogs win every theological argument by fiat, the players end up feeling uneasy because they've vicariously imposed their theology on others.  From what I can tell (without playing it), DITV is about the horror of having power and responsibility over other people.

I'm wondering, what if we take theology out of the formula and use cultural values instead?  To me, this implies that the "Dogs" should be from a different culture than those they judge.  So far, so good.  But I'm wondering if the townsfolk calling the Dogs' moral authority into question in the fiction has any effect on the after-play reflection.

* These examples shouldn't be taken to imply this is an exclusively American issue.

James_Nostack wrote:
Would it strain Dogs all that much if they had to settle matters in an un-Faithful town?  In this mod, the Lost Colonies have been independent for a while, and aren't crazy about the United Planets and the Core Worlds telling people what to do.  The "Dogs" have social influence and moral credibility, but dubious political authority.

Falc wrote:
So let's get back to your sci-fi version. The key will probably be how much moral authority the Dogs really have and how many 'subjects' they have on any given planet. To be blunt, if they arrive on a planet and no-one is interested in what they have to say, no-one feels concerned, ... That's when your game would fall apart.

You need to write out a planet generation chart, similar to the town generation. Forget all the rest for now. If you can't do this, it'll never work because you won't have interesting places to play in.