I'm going to be running some Dogs at an upcoming con, and since the slots are 4 hours I am naturally a bit concerned about time management. I ran the game under very similar circumstances this weekend, and I would say that being generous to myself there was still 90 minutes or so of town left over, after: setting spiel, character generation, initiations, and the town itself. There were five players and myself as GM.

Now this was my first time running Dogs, but I felt like I was fairly on the ball as far as keeping things moving, etc. So while I'm sure I could shave as much as half an hour off the whole intro + chargen part, it seems like I might be better off changing the structure as well. I already plan on reducing the maximum number of players to 4 for the con slot, but I was also thinking about using pregenerated characters.

So mostly I am wondering, for those of you who have run Dogs in a time-sensitive scenario (with players who probably don't know anything about the game) -- did you use pregens? If so, how did it go? If not, why not?

I have some thoughts, both pro and con, but I'd like to hear from others first. I know I've seen AP reports where people managed chargen, initiations and a town (or at least enough of a town to be satisfying) in similar time slots. I'd also appreciate any advice on the whole thing -- are there any tricks that have worked well for getting players through chargen quickly? Keeping initiations short?

I'm also open to recommendations for towns that you've found particularly good for that sort of scenario.

Thanks!

I've run Tower Creek at a con last summer. It was technically a 4-hour slot (I think we overran by about 30 mins, however). I had three players who I went through character creation with, and then another player turned up a bit later who got a one of the pregens I had prepared for just that eventuality (This late player had also played Dogs once before, which was a help).

I had a one-sheet handout prepared, that described the general setting and so forth, and blank character sheets ready. I decided that coming up with the characters could be fairly quick if all three did it step by step; so I walked them through it quickly. Choosing traits started off a bit slowly (analysis paralysis, I think), but with a bit of prompting, and encouragement from me that they as long as they picked traits that they thought were cool, they wouldn't have any problems in play. (Interestingly, one of the players looked down at his character sheet when he was done and said something like "wow, the character's just right in front of you, isn't he?")

Accomplishments were the slowest part, as it was three one-on-one conflicts, but I sped through them with just a couple of Raises and Sees, with everybody watching, so by the end of the last one, the basic principles of conflicts were understood. One was simple, yet awesome: "I hope my sister accepts my calling". All in all, this took between 60-90 minutes from the players sitting down to starting Tower Creek.

I shot into Tower Creek (and took on the forth player), going at a breakneck pace. I said "yes" to most things, to keep the game going. There were only two big conflicts rolled out. One was entirely Dog vs. Dog, when they were working out what to do, and was one of the best conflicts I've had the pleasure to watch.

Recommendations. Hmmm, A few things off the top of my head: Have a big pot of dice in the middle of the table. Have a couple of pregens ready if you do get late players. Reassure the players that you can't really "mess up" character creation. Throw the situation at the players. Say "Yes" as much as possible. Give as early as possible (this is something I'm not as good at as I would like to be.)

I've run Dogs in a 3-hour con slot, without using pre-gens. You can read about it here: http://www.indie-rpgs.com/forum/index.php?topic=21725.0

I decided not to use pre-gens because (a) I became convinced that I didn't need to for time reasons, from reading AP posts, and (b) in my limited experience with Dogs I'd found character generation, especially accomplishments, to be some of the best parts of play and useful for learning the system.

I did go the extra mile in preparing: I had multiple copies of the rules, multiple copies of various cheat-sheets, and I made sure that I designed a town that would not leave the players wandering around wondering what to do (something of a problem the 1st time I ran Dogs).

As it turned out, time wasn't a huge problem. I was even running with enough free time to have a 10-minute coffee break in the middle. There were at least half-a-dozen conflicts in the town, so it's not like I scaled the town back a lot either.

Hope this helps,
Chris

Some opinions, based on my own con play:

Ice wrote: I already plan on reducing the maximum number of players to 4 for the con slot, but I was also thinking about using pregenerated characters.

I'd also appreciate any advice on the whole thing -- are there any tricks that have worked well for getting players through chargen quickly?

Keeping initiations short?

Reducing the number of players is probably a good thing--more spotlight time for everyone--but using pregens is a bad idea, in my mind. The way a player makes his or her character is your Big Red Honking Flag as to what sorts of conflicts will interest him or her. Give them a pregen, and their investment is lost, I'd bet (I know I don't much give a fig about pregen characters--I tend to get them killed in spectacular ways).

I have done chargen for Dogs and a town in around three hours and it wasn't a strain.

This is keeping in mind that I haul ass when I play Dogs, drop the mystery in the players' lap right away and then start throwing rocks and shooting.

And I'll take one or two existing towns, look at the characters that were made and choose the town to fit the characters, tweaking it here and there to fit even better.

Thanks a lot for the advice everyone! I have no idea how anyone could run chargen, initiations, and a town in 3 hours, but apparently it's happened more than once, so perhaps 4 hours won't be so bad. (I am curious, for those who have done so, whether your players were new to the game or not?) I definitely agree that generic pregens are out, and my thought is that if I do pregens I will probably leave some trait dice unassigned even so. It doesn't seem troublesome at all to let players assign trait dice during the game, much as they do relationship dice. The advice on questions to move players through chargen looks particularly helpful. I'm definitely going to write up a cheat sheet for the setting, maybe some of the 'theology' from the book -- I feel like it's easy for discussion of setting to balloon out of control, time-wise, as players get hung-up on fiddly details about sin and the like.

If I do decide to run chargen, I plan on taking a player's advice and skipping past the 'background' stage, so I can write the unassigned dice on the sheets. I feel like the whole strong/complicated history/community step is the most likely to trip up new players, since at that point they don't even know how the game works.

Perhaps it is just my initiation-fu which is slow, though there weren't any obvious slowdowns that I was aware of while I was running them. I'm definitely going to have to bring a watch, that's for sure. Does anyone know if there are any audio recordings up anywhere of people running Dogs, at a con or otherwise?

Ice wrote: I'm definitely going to write up a cheat sheet for the setting, maybe some of the 'theology' from the book -- I feel like it's easy for discussion of setting to balloon out of control, time-wise, as players get hung-up on fiddly details about sin and the like.

I'd never use Pregen characters for Dogs, although I'm nowhere as fast as Judd (3 hours, wow!). The best part of Dogs is how your PC renders judgement, not how the GM's Dog would do it. By making the PCs himself, the GM risks the players looking to him for whether they're playing them right, when they should be looking inside themselves.  Even when we fall short of completing the town we get far enough into things that players can see what Dogs is offering and get excited about it.

Stuff to help speed things along: Martin Higham did a wonderful one-page summary of character generation and I give every player a copy of that and a character sheet (on antique paperstock, cheap but visually appealing), and make sure I have extra pencils for everyone. I provide all the dice, separated out in 4 nesting plastic bowls so that people don't have to fish around, index cards that people can fold over and write their Dogs' name on so everyone can remember who everyone is (and don't forget the Brother or Sister), and always a copy of Jason Morningstar's Names of the Faithful. His Wisdom from the Book of Life is handy but optional. Lastly, I have my town notes (with names in ALL CAPS) and a sheet of proto-NPCs pre-rolled but not assigned with this very helpful reminder at the top in case I get stuck for traits:

Doug wrote:
What function does this person serve in the community?
Who does this person actively like or dislike? Why?
Is there anything about this person that other people remark on?
What do they want from the Dogs?