Hi,

This Saturday at the local con I played a new favourite of mine: Dirty Secrets!

Only two players signed up, my friends Zarina and Cyril. I had played Polaris and the Iä! Iä! Ph'iles with Cyril before, never with Zarina, but I know her quite well since one year when she entered the organiser board to a convention where I help too. I was actually somewhat relieved to only have players I could trust, even though I had no idea how this would really work out (Cyril having a tendency to play on the funny side and Zarina having only played traditional RPGs).
To make a long story short, it was brilliant.

This is how it went.

Set-up

Since my paper copy hadn't arrived (I got it this Monday: one of the most beautiful RPG books ever in my eyes), we played with the beta version Seth had sent me a few months ago. Basically, from what I gather, these are the two major differences from standard Dirty Secrets and our play: we didn't have the first person role-playing rule in mind and we played in a way that amounts to corrupt investigator.
The rules were easy to teach, although the two others got mixed up with the conflict resolution rules once each. I had a Novella-grid in mind and planned to play it out in four hours (I now see that the print version adds a 1-2 hours to this, which seems more realistic to me).
We decided to play in Lausanne, where Cyril had studied and worked a few years, where Zarina basically lived all her life and where I have been studying since four years. I explained the demographics. Cyril wanted to know what that thing about "race" was, and Zarina too: she was adopted very young and is culturally and mentally a very typical Swiss woman, but she was born of Indian parents. They already knew the game could get rough on some topics. I also told them this was taken directly from 30's-40's literature, a time at which the word didn't have the same connotations it has now (I should have told them that there is a provocative component that goes with that too).
I went for the Investigator role because nobody else really wanted it, Zarina was first Auhtority.

Our initial crime was blackmailing. A Swiss lady, Amandine Duteuil, private investigator, had just broken up with her fiancé, a Slavic 2nd generation immigrant called Foro Todić. She was so upset that she decided to attack what was probably dearest to him: his father Slavko, who had dabbled in drug dealing long years past and had gone to jail for that. She was blackmailing him on  a different topic altogether though: he was helping people immigrate illegally (is there a noun in English for that activity?) into Switzerland (an extremely hot topic in Swiss politics, for which reason I will add the "immigrant" (il)legal status next time we play). Foro didn't know that and Slavko didn't want to loose the trust his son showed him, so he submitted to her extortions in exchange for her silence.
Foro soon noticed that his dad needed more and more money, which he was providing him with since years thanks to his good social status, and thus knew that something fishy was up. He decided to call a rich Hispanic lady he had had a one night affair with and with which he had remained good friends. This was our investigator, Maria Clergia.
We played a quick initial sequence, using some funky "split-screen" narration at one point (one instance of non-first person role-playing) were we presented Amandine as the primary suspect. Of course, she had no idea yet about the human traffic, that part was a working theory, as we quite well knew that perhaps Amandine had nothing to do with the Crime at all.

First act

I did a quick review of the four types of sequences for the players, and reread them the rules out loud each time we played a scene type for the first time.

I suggested to start play with an Investigation scene, and Cyril accepted.
I decided to have Maria pay a visit to Amandine, who did not know her. I quickly aimed for a conflict where Maria was trying to trick Amandine into betraying her role in the blackmailing. I lost the conflict, so Maria had no proof about what was going on, but Amandine did have a weird reaction that confirmed Maria's suspicion. Also, Maria got slapped across the face as Amandine lost her temper. I lost all my fucking dice.

I played a quick reflection, showing Maria take a nice solitary meal at her luxurious apartment with view on the lake, and drinking some red wine (okay, that's really me and my fantasies).

Next, Maria called Slavko on the phone. Slavko thought she was some kind of telemarketing nuisance and told her to call somebody else, like his neighbour for example. When Maria insisted that she needed to talk about something important, Cyril played a third voice in the background telling Slavko to put down the damn phone. No conflict. A Character was created: a black, rich Swiss citizen and police officer. Our working theory was that he was Amandine's lover and that he was exerting pressure on Slavko.

From there on, I used the results of a revelation to tell that Maria learned, via a phone call to the Asian neighbour's young and very intelligent daughter (a Character), that Slavko was indeed trafficking people into Switzerland under the police officer's supervision!

Foro and Maria meet at a rock bar to discuss what she has discovered until now. Foro is completely shocked learning what his father has been doing, and wants to kill Amandine. Maria wants him not to do anything so stupid (does she love him?) The conversation heats up, Foro stands up and pushes Maria from her chair. As I just got clattered again, Cyril had the pleasure of narrating three violence, which he directed at Maria: she falls from the chair and hits her head hard against the edge of a table. Foro runs. Maria is brought to hospital.
I love loosing in this game.

Now we played an investigation sequence in a non-kosher way. Maria was unconscious at the hospital, so the Authority and the Adviser decided to play a scene where Amandine was getting really mad at Slavko for not paying. She was also really mad because Maria was meddling in her affairs. So with Stefan the police officer's help, they coerced Slavko into aborting Maria of her foetus! (Slavko was a doctor whose degree was never recognized by Swiss authorities.) I can now see how this could lead to really difficult crime resolution as we are basically establishing Amandine's role in the blackmail (I mean, we could find excuses, but they could feel really lame). I then narrate Maria waking up at the hospital and a doctor announcing her that she was going to be okay, and oh, did she know that she was pregnant?

We were steering towards crime resolution on the grid. Amandine's name was twice on it, and all the characters once as well, including Maria.

Of course, next sequence is pure violence as Slavko enters the dark hospital room at night with a long metal rod (that was the only time Cyril played on the wacky side). Resolution ensues, I hope to win with massive violence (I don't want the kid to die!) but I fumble and Cyril wins... with zero violence!
Slavko is crying, forcing himself to preserve his relation to his son, when suddenly Stefan runs into the room and drags the older man to the floor, telling him that all is over, he couldn't stand the idea of such a crime. They were going to do something about Amandine who had been completely manipulating the two. Moreover, Cyril justified this with a religious enlightenment on Stefan's part. What looked like Cyril's wacky side taking over actually resulted in a powerful and credible scene!
Zarina found it extremely satisfying to have a powerful black man cry (well, that's something I didn't know about her).

Crime resolution! Cyril rolled... and landed on Amandine! All was well, and he confirmed our working theory. Good thing that it worked out this way. A new crime had to be invented and we both suggested that Amandine is murdered. Cyril immediately went with that.

Second act

Okay, from now on, I'm going to do a rougher overview:
Maria and Foro have a new dispute because he didn't call her to apologize. He flies down the stairs for two violence (revenge!) Maria meets Sandrine, Slavko's young neighbour and friend. She immediately recognizes her as Amandine's daughter...
Maria does some frantic investigating (including using a gun to help people speak;  Sandrine manages to get Maria to put it down) trying to get each man to admit the murder of Amandine (but why?) All claim their innocence.
We then learn that the human traffic is part of a much bigger network. Amandine was actually a sort of supervisor for Slavko, using her Swiss citizenship and job to iron things out from time to time.
What was going on? Was there some big mafia trying to kill all the dissident elements in their network? That would explain the woman waiting in the car outside of Stefan's house... This would mean that Slavko, Stefan and possibly even Sandrine were in danger! (That's us going wild on speculations.)

Maria races back to Stefan's place, but arrives too late. Stefan has been shot in the head. In his fist, a torn bit of lace.
Another revelation and we establish that the (Turkish) woman in the car was the lesbian lover of Amandine. That's why Foro made it out with Maria and broke up with Amandine in the first place!
Some investigation seems to point out a Turkish restaurant as this woman's "place of contact" for the network...

Funny thing is, I was putting Maria's name all over the Crime Grid. While the criminal network held as a working theory, chances were actually slim that it had anything to do with our story.
A reflection sequence shows Maria tasting her expensive red wine, patting her tummy and saying to no-one in particular (except to us of course): "One more..."

Maria visits Sandrine, tells her all about her mum she had never known and tells her to be really careful. The Turkish woman is heard coming into the house, and Sandrine tells Maria to hide while she goes to meet her "godmother" (and here the criminal network starts breaking down). She was coming to take Sandrine to vacation. Actually, Kadija is Stefan's step-mother, Slavko tells Maria. So, what's up? Is Kadija really trying to help Sandrine or is she going to eliminate one of the last witnesses?

Slavko wants to know what this story about Amandine being Sandrine's mom is. He invites Maria to his house, and secretly, also Forro. (I was secretly hoping for a violence scene to kill one of the two men, Cyril gave it to me.)
Somewhere around here, we resolve Amandine's murder: Maria had done it for vengeance! (Her name appears on nearly half the filled spaces.)
Maria was not too pleased to meet Foro. An argument starts, Foro was for some reason not wanting to accept that Amandine had had a child before they met. They start screaming at each other and I loose yet again. Cyril has Foro try to strangle Maria and then run away.
Slavko is appalled and runs to help Maria. She tells him all about the criminal network. She tells him to accept her gun to defend himself. He doesn't want to. She leaves the gun on his table. (We don't know where to go with this normal conflict, so I "give", cancelling the conflict procedure and only keeping the dialogue). Three violence would have been perfect here: a convenient "accident" in the way I was seeing the story.

We push for a quick end as it was getting late and force the witness as fast as possible to crime resolution. We roll and end up with Amandine for Stefan's murder! We didn't know what to do, Zarina was in a hurry for her next game, so we ignored the result and re-rolled: the police had found evidence that Stefan was shot with Foro's gun! The two men had been "discussing" recent events, and Foro placed the white lace in his hand as a red herring (funny how that works out, when this could have been a red herring for us had we insisted on that clue!)

We ended the story here, letting each of us come to our own conclusions about Maria's motivation: mine was that she was quite happy that Foro did part of her plan for vengeance and that he went to prison for it. She finally gave up on killing Slavko, because the man was so broken that it was pointless. Besides, too many people knew that she had seen him often in recent days...

Questions and Comments

No more third-person role-playing. Too dangerous.
The new time estimations are very sensible: we played five and a half hours, including learning the rules. Only five spaces were still free on the crime grid, of which one was completely isolated.
Location didn't play as large a role as last time.
I will play first Authority next time, as suggested in Jesse's recent thread, I'd like to see more violence scenes and ugly twists of fates, which a lot of role-players that are not in my usual group do not have as a habit to provide when they're not GM. I also believe that it's a learned skill, particularly in Dirty Secret. Anybody will know how to defend themselves as Investigator.

How could we have resolved Stefan's murder with Amandine as the perpetrator, without using any supernatural elements? I thought of two possibilities after play: either use an alias or mistaken identity to put the blame on someone else (but that wouldn't have been very satisfying, since we'd probably have had to invent a new Character on the spot), or have a hitman actually kill Stefan, but on Amandine's command before she died (this could have made sense). Any other suggestions?

What should we do when we suddenly realize that conflict was not appropriate after all? This often happens in dialogue-conflict. Suddenly, something that one of the character says changes the perspective completely. We just cancelled the conflict on the spot.

Thanks for the AP, Christoph!  I love the pictures that you linked, BTW.  And that's a beautiful lake.

Thank you for your kind words about the book.  I'll pass those on to Crystal.  After all, she did the graphic design and layout work, so she'll be pleased.

No, there's no English word for smuggling aliens into the country, although, as Jesse noted in his thread, it's a hot issue in the U.S. as well.  I'll say the same thing to you:  do feel free to tinker with the Demographics, but just make sure that everyone is working from the same list.  That's important.

Now, to your list of conclusions:

No more third-person role-playing. Too dangerous.

The new time estimations are very sensible: we played five and a half hours, including learning the rules. Only five spaces were still free on the crime grid, of which one was completely isolated.

How could we have resolved Stefan's murder with Amandine as the perpetrator, without using any supernatural elements? I thought of two possibilities after play: either use an alias or mistaken identity to put the blame on someone else (but that wouldn't have been very satisfying, since we'd probably have had to invent a new Character on the spot), or have a hitman actually kill Stefan, but on Amandine's command before she died (this could have made sense). Any other suggestions?

What should we do when we suddenly realize that conflict was not appropriate after all? This often happens in dialogue-conflict. Suddenly, something that one of the character says changes the perspective completely. We just cancelled the conflict on the spot.

Hi Seth,

I haven't yet arrived at the two new rules you mentioned: "rewind" and "double violence", so we didn't use them at all. I can see them making lots of sense. Good points about conflict too.

Looking back at the thread, it doesn't actually make for a fantastic story, at least not in a "clockwork precision neatness" kind of way. If I start looking at some scenes critically, it actually has some bad holes. Still, I at least was really captivated by play, and I know Zarina and Cyril enjoyed themselves a lot too. I kept on trying to find ideas about possible perverted relationships, fucked up events and dirty twists of fate, and I loved doing that. I was completely thrilled by some of the ideas Zarina and Cyril brought to the table.
A dawning realization that Story in RPG-play is quite different to Story in cinema and literature on a number of points. Except perhaps for participationist and illusionist play, in which GMs often strive to offer similar Stories in quality and nature.

So, Seth, I'd love to talk more about your game, but I don't know where to start. Since you have quite some experience and feedback from other players, are there any interesting trends you're discovering, which I might be able to contribute experience to or look out for in future play?

Christoph wrote:
Looking back at the thread, it doesn't actually make for a fantastic story, at least not in a "clockwork precision neatness" kind of way. If I start looking at some scenes critically, it actually has some bad holes.

I didn't realize that one of the murders wasn't solved in the Big Sleep. Now that you talk of it and that I've read Chandler's biography, I remember that indeed, we never know how one of the crimes happened. Incredible!

Also, for more contemporary noir, I read James Crumley's Dancing Bears, which was a real punch to the face. In this one, I think all the crimes are resolved, but once the reader knows what was up, the realization of how screwed the characters were made me not really care about the "case" any more. Same in the Big Sleep actually.

I'll have to give this point some more thought (and play).

Christoph wrote:
Also, for more contemporary noir, I read James Crumley's Dancing Bears, which was a real punch to the face. In this one, I think all the crimes are resolved, but once the reader knows what was up, the realization of how screwed the characters were made me not really care about the "case" any more. Same in the Big Sleep actually.

Seth,

Your analysis of what the source material of Dirty Secrets is all about is excellent.  But it prompts a question in my head: Do you think that people who don't know that about the genre would get that experience our of playing Dirty Secrets even in an unarticulated fashion?  Now, it's fine  if you think Dirty Secrets is a game for people who already know that about the fiction and rewards those who viciously go for it.  But I'm just curious as to how you see the design.

I ask because you made the same connection with Dogs in the Vineyard that I did.  A lot of the time when people kind of hem and haw about the religious context I say, "In practice, the whole thing plays out a lot like a hardboiled detective story."  And I consider that one of the beautiful things about Dogs in the Vineyard: without anyone really being aware of it, it produces a fairly strong noir narrative disguised as a supernatural religious western.  I mean the dark places my nine town campaign went might as well have been called Utah Confidential.

Jesse

First off, credit where credit is due.  That line from MacDonald to DitV through Trollbabe is all Ron's thinking, substantiated with comments that Vincent has made about the connection between Trollbabe and Dogs.

Now, to answer your question.

But it prompts a question in my head: Do you think that people who don't know that about the genre would get that experience our of playing Dirty Secrets even in an unarticulated fashion?

Great reply Seth. I just finished reading the book and the advice that comes after the rules is really well done I think.

I agree that the clockwork precision of noir detective stories doesn't need to be huge because it isn't the point. I still wonder if it isn't even more relaxed in a session of Dirty Secrets, not because the audience isn't as demanding as the novel-reader audience, not because the authors are intrinsically inferior to the masters of noir (well, probably we are, but I submit that if McDonald and Chandler played together their fiction would have more holes than their novels) and not even because the importance of coherence is lesser in rpg play, but because the way we experience stories in play is different to when we read/see/hear it passively.
Since I lack serious observation or theoretical tools, I'll keep it at that and let the idea stew for a while.