One of the things I do while playing is to 'swap' characters between players or changing the 1:1 relationship between the player and the PC, so that one player must move more than one character or many players are allowed to move only one.
Is there some game using the same mechanism, in order to have a look and find some idea / play advice?
Rob

A few, but it's not common, because character creation tends to make each character an expression of what each player wants out of the game.

White Wolf's Wraith: the shadow (id) of each character is run by another player
Atlas Games' Ars Magica: secondary characters (knights and other hangers-on) are a shared pool of characters used by whichever players don't have their main character going on this particular adventure

madunkieg wrote:
A few, but it's not common, because character creation tends to make each character an expression of what each player wants out of the game.

White Wolf's Wraith: the shadow (id) of each character is run by another player
Atlas Games' Ars Magica: secondary characters (knights and other hangers-on) are a shared pool of characters used by whichever players don't have their main character going on this particular adventure

I'm trying to do something similar at the moment in my game, 16-bit.  I'm thinking a character's back story will be effectively co-narrated by the group during major dialogue scenes.

My hope is that this will encourage a player to come to relate to his character's story over time (much like in video games), rather than a player create a character's back story before the game and be able to relate to him immediately (as in traditional pen and paper RPGs).

The adventure then becomes a vehicle to work through the stories of the characters.

I'm not sure how to structure the back and forth exchange that weaves a character's story yet, however.  In games like Polaris, there is an admirable system of bartering for plot points.  That game also sets up players in different roles (either narrating for or against the character whose scene it is).

Hi, I started to write a game a few years back already which does this on two levels:
- Other players choose your character's background, you choose what he does about it, now.
- Other players imply dirty connections to a crime for your character.

Here's the old beta 2 version, which wasn't quite as aggressive as what I describe above, but nearly. There's a few threads on the Forge where I talk about play tests, the game used to be called The Iä! Iä! Ph'iles (homage to the X-Files and Lovecraft, two major sources of inspiration in the first stages).

It's more or less playable, but the endgame fizzles one time out of two, so it's going to get a major overhaul as soon as I get back to it.

Other info (maybe useful). The player may obtain again the ownership of his/her original character during the game.
Losing the ownership is not 'forever'.
Rob

rgrassi wrote:
One of the things I do while playing is to 'swap' characters between players

or changing the 1:1 relationship between the player and the PC, so that one player must move more than one character or many players are allowed to move only one.

Thanks Moreno... ;)
E ciao!
Rob

Actually, 16-bit is more relevant to this discussion than I previously suggested.  In Dialogue Cutscenes, each player controls a different hero (aka character), usually not their own.  If not all heroes are being spotlighted in the scene, players without a hero to control will control an NPC (the big-bad NPCs are generally left up to the GM, however).  Therefore, in dialogue scenes, you have no control over your own character (much like the old console RPGs the game is inspired by).  Because players can control NPCs (such as personal relations of the heroes), you still get that "oh shit!" moment when players get wrapped up in the scene and narrate some spooky-beautiful twist (like you get in Polaris quite a bit).

This is mainly how hero back story is developed, and what I meant by "co-narrated" by the group.  Of course, control goes back to the owner during minor dialogue (like when exploring the world) and combat encounters.

Now if I can just figure out a way to mechanically represent the loss 16-bit heroes endure to save the world...

Christoph wrote:
Hi, I started to write a game a few years back already which does this on two levels:
- Other players choose your character's background, you choose what he does about it, now.
- Other players imply dirty connections to a crime for your character.

Here's the old beta 2 version, which wasn't quite as aggressive as what I describe above, but nearly. There's a few threads on the Forge where I talk about play tests, the game used to be called The Iä! Iä! Ph'iles (homage to the X-Files and Lovecraft, two major sources of inspiration in the first stages).

It's more or less playable, but the endgame fizzles one time out of two, so it's going to get a major overhaul as soon as I get back to it.

Hi,

Moreno wrote:
Mmmm...I am thinking about other examples (Universalis, Dirty Secrets, Spione, etc.) but they are always examples of playing "like a GM", not of a game where you create a "traditional" character for you and then you have to swap it at a certain point and then another player play it from then on...  What kind of "swap" are you searching for precisely?