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Topic: Awesome Sorcerer quote
Started by: Clinton R. Nixon
Started on: 7/2/2002
Board: Adept Press


On 7/2/2002 at 5:21am, Clinton R. Nixon wrote:
Awesome Sorcerer quote

The title of this post is kind of misleading. I don't want to get into a "Jack Chick bad!" discussion either, but anyway - in the newest Jack Chick essay about roleplaying games, I found the following quote:

Schnoebelen describes magic as a "kind of spiritual lust...It is, however subtle, an itch for power. Magic, at its root, is about power and about rebellion. It is about not liking how God runs the universe and thinking you can do a better job yourself."

I don't know about anyone else, but that quote gives me ideas for a dozen different Sorcerer characters.

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On 7/2/2002 at 6:18am, Ben Morgan wrote:
RE: Awesome Sorcerer quote

Damn that's good. I wonder if it's possible to get Chick's permission to use it in ad copy. :)

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On 7/2/2002 at 4:36pm, Clay wrote:
RE: Awesome Sorcerer quote

Amazing Kreskin wrote: Damn that's good. I wonder if it's possible to get Chick's permission to use it in ad copy.


You want Schnoeblen's permission, since it's his quote. Chick ripped it off himself. Using a small portion like that might fall under the heading of Fair Use, anyway, so long as its properly attributed.

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On 7/2/2002 at 7:44pm, Ron Edwards wrote:
RE: Awesome Sorcerer quote

Hey,

It's an excellent quote. Although I'd gain great personal pleasure from quoting Schnoebelen in a Sorcerer publication, thus co-opting his words for purposes that he'd no doubt find distasteful, it wouldn't be very nice, so I'd probably not do it.

The hell of it is (no pun intended) that exactly what he says makes magic, which I consider to be imaginary, a powerful tool for stories which do address moral issues. In other words, his understanding of the matter stops short of its actual meaningful application.

Oh, for those of you who haven't seen the article, it's here:
http://www.chick.com/articles/dnd.asp.

Don't expect much; it's the usual mindless grunting regarding D&D and scripture and so forth. My favorite part is the "avoid the appearance of evil" reasoning, since D&D "certainly looks evil," according to Schnoebelen.

Best,
Ron

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On 7/2/2002 at 9:17pm, Fabrice G. wrote:
RE: Awesome Sorcerer quote

Hi,

a little of topic but...

As a french, I haven't been exposed to this kind of speach... scary.

Anyway, I think your right Ron, don't use these words.


Fabrice.

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