I have an artist who wants to have a small graphic as a signature, plus a printed signature, plus a website address all on her work.  She wants this for her own protection.  For my part, I think it's too much and draws you away from the use of the art in the book to evoke the game - to me, it reminds me that I'm looking at a picture someone has done and inserted into the text.

Am I being too sensitive about this? How should I handle this?

Thanks!
Christopher

Wow, is there going to be room for any content?

I'd propose a compromise.  On every page where her work appears, there's a little "Image by Jane Hancock" or whatever in 6-8 point type at the bottom.  Her website appears in the credits -- "Images by Jane Hancock on pages 3,4 and 62-109 inclusive, http://www.mysignatureisenormousbecauseitmakesmefeelmoreprotected.com"  She can sign her pictures in a reasonable way, and if she wants to use some kind of signature graphic, she hides it in the content Easter-egg style -- like Al Hirschfeld and "Nina."

-G.

Look at what's normal in the industry and go with that (she's asking too much). If someone demands special treatment they must really be worth it, or give a large discount.

A small icon or signature in an illustration is common, but more than that not so much. An example of more elaborate artist credits are D&D books that often unobtrusively have the artist's name listed in the page borders, you could do something like that. I'd never put URLs in there though, I would limit those to the usual places to list contributors. One mention of a URL is enough.

What's wrong with a normal credits page? As long as you proclaim her as the artist, I don't see how a more elaborate signature scheme is really going to protect her any more than the fact that the book claims her as the artist. I could see this in an electronic publication (html especially), I suppose, as it's always possible that an image on a web page is going to be viewed out of its original context, but in a book this seems unnecessary both legally and by convention.

As for how to handle it, I suppose it depends on how much you want her to work with it, and whether she's interested in discussing it. If she's already made up her mind, then it's up to you to decide whether you want to go with it. That sort of thing might be appropriate in some contexts, but mostly I'd expect a normal book or such to look ridiculous with that level of self-importance. Unless the art is the main content of the book, there really is no good reason to scream the creator data at the reader on every page. I don't put my signature on each chapter of text I write, either, and especially not when the text is there just to contextualize somebody else's work.

All of those things are somewhat normal requests.  All of them together are a bit heavy handed.  But then you're probably not paying industry standard for spot black and white illustrations.  So at that point it's a negotiation between you and the artist. 

As others above have pointed out, and to reiterate here, a signed illustration with a signature is pretty typical and acceptable; running a byline for the artist in small type on the same page is also perfectly fine.  That could exist as "(c) Jane Q, www.JaneQ.com"  or "(c)www.JaneQ.com" 

Likely the artist is working for you at a greatly reduced fee and you should bend over backward so that they get the credit and protection that they are asking for, even if in this case it might be a little over the top.

Hello,

This is an individual publisher call, and literally no one can make a recommendation. You'll have to decide for yourself. Even citing "what's done" in general is not translatable into "industry standard" - there is no standard, regardless of the most common practice (if there is one).

My own individual call as a publisher is to recommend that artists contributing to my books do sign their work. I don't advocate that anyone else do this, or not to do it. I offer my policy specifically because it is the opposite of your own, to demonstrate the diversity of views that can be found.

Best, Ron

drkrash wrote: I have an artist who wants to have a small graphic as a signature, plus a printed signature, plus a website address all on her work.  She wants this for her own protection.  For my part, I think it's too much and draws you away from the use of the art in the book to evoke the game - to me, it reminds me that I'm looking at a picture someone has done and inserted into the text.

Thanks, everyone!

I expressed that I needed some time to consider her proposal - and then I ran here and asked for advice! :)

Before I could get back to her, she herself relented and simply asked for a contributor's bio, which I was planning on giving her anyway.

It's all good for both of us and I maintain a relationship with an artist that I like and who I think is simply phenomenal.

C

drkrash wrote: It's all good for both of us and I maintain a relationship with an artist that I like and who I think is simply phenomenal.