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Topic: Parrying a punch with a sword
Started by: svenlein
Started on: 9/5/2002
Board: The Riddle of Steel


On 9/5/2002 at 12:22pm, svenlein wrote:
Parrying a punch with a sword

This is a question I asked earlier but the thread died

Guy tries to punch me.
I parry with my sword.
As an added bonus to him not hitting me, do I get to cut his hand off?

Scott

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On 9/5/2002 at 2:03pm, Valamir wrote:
RE: Parrying a punch with a sword

The simplest solution would be to use the extra successes from the parry as damage.

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On 9/5/2002 at 2:06pm, Wolfen wrote:
RE: Parrying a punch with a sword

I think that suggestion was basically made somewhere during the other thread, before it got off-topic and turned to whether it was possible to parry a sword with your hand, instead.

But yes, I think Valamir has the best solution. Simple and elegant.

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On 9/5/2002 at 2:11pm, Mokkurkalfe wrote:
RE: Parrying a punch with a sword

Umm, wouldn't that make a very successful parry more lethal than a less successful one.
What if a tie would give the entire damage(i.e ST+2 for a longsword) to the hand. Lower with 1 for every extra success of the parry.

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On 9/5/2002 at 2:52pm, Jake Norwood wrote:
RE: Parrying a punch with a sword

Mokkurkalfe wrote: Umm, wouldn't that make a very successful parry more lethal than a less successful one.
What if a tie would give the entire damage(i.e ST+2 for a longsword) to the hand. Lower with 1 for every extra success of the parry.


I think you're thinking of "what if I parry a sword with my hand." This is the opposite. I agree that Valamir's solution is simple and elegant (and has a good TROS feel to it, IMO).

Jake

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On 9/5/2002 at 3:30pm, Mokkurkalfe wrote:
RE: Parrying a punch with a sword

Oops. Misread the question.

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On 9/6/2002 at 9:47pm, Thirsty Viking wrote:
parrying unarmed with sword

hmmm typical parrys use the flat of the blade (training to preserve the integrity of your blade), i think think i'd assess either a -2d activation to parry with edge (not typical usage.. counter intuitive), otherwise I'd treat the parry as bludgeoning damage. this preserves defensive abilities.... if you want to chop arms off take the - otherwise choose attack and aim for the arm at a +1 cp.

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On 9/7/2002 at 5:06am, Jake Norwood wrote:
Re: parrying unarmed with sword

Thirsty Viking wrote: hmmm typical parrys use the flat of the blade (training to preserve the integrity of your blade), i think think i'd assess either a -2d activation to parry with edge (not typical usage.. counter intuitive), otherwise I'd treat the parry as bludgeoning damage. this preserves defensive abilities.... if you want to chop arms off take the - otherwise choose attack and aim for the arm at a +1 cp.


While it's true that when deflecting/parrying that you receive blows with the flat of the blade, many parries are made aggressively by striking with the edge against the flat of the opponent's blade...thus striking with the edge as a parry against a hand attack is perfectly reasonable. I would not grant the +1 to hit the hand on such a parry, however.

Jake

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On 9/7/2002 at 5:45pm, Thirsty Viking wrote:
RE: Re: parrying unarmed with sword

Jake Norwood wrote:
Thirsty Viking wrote: hmmm typical parrys use the flat of the blade (training to preserve the integrity of your blade), i think think i'd assess either a -2d activation to parry with edge (not typical usage.. counter intuitive), otherwise I'd treat the parry as bludgeoning damage. this preserves defensive abilities.... if you want to chop arms off take the - otherwise choose attack and aim for the arm at a +1 cp.


While it's true that when deflecting/parrying that you receive blows with the flat of the blade, many parries are made aggressively by striking with the edge against the flat of the opponent's blade...thus striking with the edge as a parry against a hand attack is perfectly reasonable. I would not grant the +1 to hit the hand on such a parry, however.

Jake


Thanks Jake, I'm not a swordfighter, but i play one on paper. :-)

IN TFOB are the various defensive manuvers going to be given varrying levels of effectivness against different attack manuvers?
Just wondering.. not sure the detail is worth the trade offs.


The +1 to hit i was refering about was attacking instead of defending... red die against unarmed as opposed to white. In case i was unclear about that, i didn't think they should get + on the parry.

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On 9/7/2002 at 7:46pm, Jake Norwood wrote:
RE: Parrying a punch with a sword

Thirsty Viking wrote: IN TFOB are the various defensive manuvers going to be


uh...

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