Topic: ...When you see the RING
Started by: Bailywolf
Started on: 10/19/2002
Board: Adept Press
On 10/19/2002 at 2:25pm, Bailywolf wrote:
...When you see the RING
This movies scared the living shit out of me. I saw it last night, and I still feel nervous and itchy. The scariest movie I have ever seen... and as valuable source material for a Sorcerer game which favors horror as anything in the recomendations.
Damn, but everyone who plays Sorcerer needs to see this thing.
-Benjamin
On 10/19/2002 at 4:06pm, Bankuei wrote:
RE: ...When you see the RING
Was that the US version, or the original Japanese?
Chris
On 10/19/2002 at 4:24pm, Bailywolf wrote:
RE: ...When you see the RING
US. I haven't seen the Japanese.. but I imagine it is likely even scarier.
On 10/19/2002 at 6:06pm, Bankuei wrote:
RE: ...When you see the RING
Just curious. The Ring has a big history going from manga to film to videogames , and finally over here. Sounds good, been looking for a decent movie to see.
Chris
On 10/19/2002 at 8:50pm, Fabrice G. wrote:
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Hi,
I saw the original version. Very very good movie !
It's not graphical horror, and everything is suggested rather than overexposed.
It's right on the scary, moody stuff, and could quite easely be adapted to the sorcerer format.
[spoiler]
You can look at the tape as an object demon and see the viewing of the tape as binding. After that, why is that killing you after seven days...?
And the way to get rid of it !!!! To damn and bind another !!! That's right in the line of Sorcerer's stories !
[/spoiler]
Fabrice.
On 10/19/2002 at 11:48pm, hardcoremoose wrote:
RE: ...When you see the RING
I've seen the original, and fully intend on seeing this new version to see how it measures up. It's fantastic film, with a wonderfully creepy ending.
As far as Sorcerer goes, I ran a game about a year-and-a-half ago with a lot of these same motifs (although at the time I hadn't seen Ring). I liked it a lot, and may some day develop the ideas further. I'm fascinated by that stuff, especially the voyeur culture we've seemingly developed (or maybe we've always been that way?). Heck, you can see some of that coming through in NightWatch, with its reality TV set up.
Any wonder Videodrome is one of my all-time favorite films?
- Scott
On 10/23/2002 at 6:53pm, Andy Kitkowski wrote:
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I just saw the remake yesterday. GREAT movie. I saw the original a few years back, and loved it, too, but the remake was so much more interesting, involving, and scary.
There was one part at the end of the movie- I knew it was going to happen, and yet it STILL freaked me out in a serious way.
Anyway, while it won't come off as a 1 on 1 help for your Sorcerer game (adventure ideas and the like), it's very great at helping you imagine how atmosphere plays a role in the game. Hopefully you'll be able to make your games freakier.
I also highly recommend the game series "Silent Hill (particularly the first) if you want to get a good idea with how to set up an atmosphere that will scare the living hell out of yuor players.
On 10/23/2002 at 9:34pm, Bankuei wrote:
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I also highly recommend the game series "Silent Hill (particularly the first) if you want to get a good idea with how to set up an atmosphere that will scare the living hell out of yuor players.
Definitely a great game that should be studied by horror filmmakers and writers everywhere. For a more cyberpunk sort of terror, try out Galarians, another PS game full of head damage. And if you happen to find a copy of the old PC/Mac game, Obsidian by Sega, it's full of surreal imagery and a good idea of what happens when you play with the "Hint" power too long.
Another good Japanese demon movie is Eco Eco, which has a great possessor demon and one of those climatic endings that leaves your mouth hanging, "Did I just see that?"
Chris
On 10/29/2002 at 5:02am, urbwar wrote:
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Sundance is showing two Japanese Horror films on Halloween, starting at 9 pm est
The first is Uzumaki, which I hear is pretty twisted. Ghost Actress follows, but I have no clue as to whether it is good or not
Just an FYI
On 10/29/2002 at 1:17pm, Bailywolf wrote:
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Oh cool. I've read the first two Uzumaki graphic novels (soo soo creepy)... have to catch the film... thanks for the heads up.
-Ben
On 10/29/2002 at 6:12pm, urbwar wrote:
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Bailywolf wrote: Oh cool. I've read the first two Uzumaki graphic novels (soo soo creepy)... have to catch the film... thanks for the heads up.
-Ben
Ben,
No problem. I've been wanting to see this movie awhile too. I came across it by accident, as I was looking for a link to IFC to check out what movies they have going for Halloween. Incidentally, IFC is showing Kwaidan, a trilogy of Japanese ghost stories, that was made in 1964. Might be worth checking out tomorrow night too.
Oh yeah, and I saw Versus. Cool movie. You gotta love gun toting zombies with little to no intelligence :)
On 10/29/2002 at 6:37pm, Christopher Kubasik wrote:
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Off topic for RPGs, and if this needs to go to PM, please contact me there:
Saw the remake. As always, Hollywood gleaming craft is in full force. And it was *really* creepy.
But I've got two questions about the story the original might have covered.
POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHEAD!
We're told the couple "went away" and came back with a daughter. Did the original cover any kind of murky methods for the procurement for the daughter. I got the feeling there was a substory there (why is the kid the way she is) but it never got answered.
Also, the ending.... SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT!!!
Where did the logic of the movie say anything about *showing* the dub to anyone? It seemed you just had to make a dub.
That kind of dulled the ending for me: just having the dubs around would be bad, but it seemed forced to make the characters so active when the rules didn't dictate that.
And finally,
The movie starts with a character talking about the urban legend of this tape. But there's only one tape, at the site of it's creation. There's been no ring of passing the tape around. It seems as if it just sat there, got watched that one night, and then the lead character went back and found it? Did the original have more of a sense of this damned thing moving through society, or was it the same set up?
Thanks,
Christopher
On 10/29/2002 at 7:05pm, Bailywolf wrote:
RE: ...When you see the RING
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS (highlight for info)
In Ringo there was no relatino between the first victim (the kid's cousin) and the reporter- she was just a school girl who was touched by the tape. There is a greater sense about the tape's legend, and more rumors and such... the tape at the lodge was just the one the investigators were able to locate (or perhaps, the place where the tape manifested initially... who knows).
It is also implied (either in the first movie or in one of 3 or 3 Japanese sequels and prequels) that the girl's psycho mind powers were the result of some kind of black-bag medical experiments to produce powerful psychics... the Japanese love psychic powers. However, I think the way it was left vague in the remake was more effective.
About the tape dub thing... I think the way it works is that you make a tape, then if someone else watches the copy before you die then they pick up the bad mojo... I don't know if they then have to make a copy and pass it on. I do think the someone else has to watch it to take the whammy off you. In the japanese version, this is more clear. When Noah's japanese couterpart watches the copy, the phone doesn't ring (I believe).
SOILER OVER
The above is assembled from a semi-viewing I've had of fragments of the movie downloaded & numerous reviews and comparisons I've read online. Do some googling and you can find out all you could hope know.
edited when I realized the inviso-text...wasn't. Added more spoiler space.
-Ben
On 10/29/2002 at 9:52pm, Christopher Kubasik wrote:
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thanks
On 10/30/2002 at 12:50am, urbwar wrote:
For all things Ring...
http://ringworld.somrux.com/index.htm
Great site covering all adaptations of The Ring....
On 11/8/2002 at 9:31pm, Andy Kitkowski wrote:
RE: ...When you see the RING
CHECK THIS OUT:
http://www.gamesdomain.com/movies/1091.html
(download is kinda shaky- try it enough times and you'll Eventualy get through)
6 MINUTE PREVIEW of SILENT HILL 3.
I guess this is for those people who are like, "Y,know? I enjoyed SH 1 and 2, and have once again learned to sleep fitfully after The Ring. I just want to go for something that will fuck me up for life".
Man, this looks gorgeous. It looks like a return to the creepy metal-and-hell of SH1...
Which, of course, will be great for getting into the mood of a creepy Sorcerer game ;)
-Andy
On 11/9/2002 at 3:34am, ethan_greer wrote:
RE: ...When you see the RING
Ugh! I'm not even going to look. You know how there's the classic image of a person covering their eyes with their hands, but then peeking through their fingers at the horrible sight? Not me, man. I'm the one busy superglueing my eyelids together. :)
On 11/30/2002 at 3:13am, Jack Spencer Jr wrote:
RE: ...When you see the RING
Christopher Kubasik wrote: SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT!!!
The movie starts with a character talking about the urban legend of this tape. But there's only one tape, at the site of it's creation. There's been no ring of passing the tape around. It seems as if it just sat there, got watched that one night, and then the lead character went back and found it? Did the original have more of a sense of this damned thing moving through society, or was it the same set up?
I think, and this is just my view, that the girl's spirit was able to imprint the images on the tape. Her father said she could. So the story the girl who was about to die said about them watching a game but found someone had taped over it. It was the girl putting her own thing on the tape. I suspect that the girl put the fabled images on any tape unfortunate enough to be shoved into that VCR. This is how the legend grew. The tape in the movie isn't "the" tape, but one of the tapes. It actually was a ball game they had taped to watch later until the girl worked her hoodoo on it. This means there are other tapes out there. Where are they? Who knows. Checked you video collection lately? How about a trip to Blockbuster?