Any chance or a spoiler on the pack animal rules?
I was almost embarresed when I set a couple of war dogs on my guys. Looking at their stats they seemed pretty reasonable but when it cam down to the actual fight I found they had a base damage( by base I simply mean STR + weapon modifier) of 2. It didnt matter what they did they couldnt hurt anybody. Wolves are even worse.
Same sort of problem with war horses but the other way. Their base STR is so high that every attack they might do starts with heaps of damage
I realise these rules will be covered in OBAM, which I am eagerly waiting for, but as its not to be released for a couple of months yet any help now would be good.

Thanks
Aaron.

I don't know how much Jake wants me to say about the animal rules at this point, so I'm going to tread softly.

A single wolf or dog against an armored knight realistically is screwed. As you get more of them, of course, pack tactics start to come into play. Pack members can use special maneuvers to wear down opponents, exhausting their CP, dragging them to the ground, worrying limbs, and so on. None of that is going to help a clawed paw get through plate steel though - that's something that's just not terribly likely.

Of course, being pretty intelligent, wolves will bring down a foe, drain his CP, keep him spinning back and forth until he doesn't know which way is up, and then go for the throat, armpits, back of the knees, and any other areas of the armor they can see some flesh through (i.e. more lightly armored).

Does that help? That's parts of a 40 page chapter in 2 paragraphs :-)

Brian.

No reasonably healthy prepared adult has much risk of being killed outright by a single dog as long as you keep your composure and don't panic. Even canine police will pursue their dogs pretty closely because they don't want their dog getting hurt if the suspect decides to try and take it out. A big cat like a puma would be far more deadly if it decided to attack than a wolf. But in a pack. Good night. Even small terrier sized dogs could rip you apart in a large enough pack. I've seen even three dogs take a man down before being called off. One kept him occupied lungeing at his throughr. A second went for the back of the knees bringing the guy down as he backed away from the lunge, and the third climbed on top once he went down. Scary stuff in groups.

Valamir wrote: I've seen even three dogs take a man down before being called off. One kept him occupied lungeing at his throughr. A second went for the back of the knees bringing the guy down as he backed away from the lunge, and the third climbed on top once he went down. Scary stuff in groups.

Brian Leybourne wrote: I don't know how much Jake wants me to say about the animal rules at this point, so I'm going to tread softly.

A single wolf or dog against an armored knight realistically is screwed. As you get more of them, of course, pack tactics start to come into play. Pack members can use special maneuvers to wear down opponents, exhausting their CP, dragging them to the ground, worrying limbs, and so on. None of that is going to help a clawed paw get through plate steel though - that's something that's just not terribly likely.

Of course, being pretty intelligent, wolves will bring down a foe, drain his CP, keep him spinning back and forth until he doesn't know which way is up, and then go for the throat, armpits, back of the knees, and any other areas of the armor they can see some flesh through (i.e. more lightly armored).

Aaron

Does that help? That's parts of a 40 page chapter in 2 paragraphs :-)

Brian.