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Topic: War pick
Started by: Darth Tang
Started on: 2/14/2003
Board: The Riddle of Steel


On 2/14/2003 at 1:10pm, Darth Tang wrote:
War pick

I haven't been able to find an illustration of this in any of my books on period weapons. I'm extremely hesitant to include a weapon for which I've no reliable mental image, much less an illustration.

I was under the impression that the histroical term for 'war pick' or 'military pick' was simply another tern for a beaked war hammer, lucern hammer, or bec de corbin.

Any input?

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On 2/14/2003 at 3:24pm, Shadeling wrote:
Re: War pick

Darth Tang wrote: I haven't been able to find an illustration of this in any of my books on period weapons. I'm extremely hesitant to include a weapon for which I've no reliable mental image, much less an illustration.

I was under the impression that the histroical term for 'war pick' or 'military pick' was simply another tern for a beaked war hammer, lucern hammer, or bec de corbin.

Any input?


Here is something I found:

http://www.ashokaarts.com/non-edged/no-zaghnal1.jpg

It is an Indian War Pick.

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On 2/14/2003 at 5:21pm, Darth Tang wrote:
RE: War pick

That's a good picture, but it looks like a war hammer to me.

I guess what I'm saying is, war hammer = war pick?

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On 2/14/2003 at 5:34pm, Shadeling wrote:
RE: War pick

Darth Tang wrote: That's a good picture, but it looks like a war hammer to me.

I guess what I'm saying is, war hammer = war pick?

I don't think so...warhammers had a heavier blunt end for doing their business...but here is a place that makes warhammers:

http://www.dopeydragon.com/pages/warham.html

I think one difference is the size of the shaft perhaps. Just some thoughts.

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On 2/14/2003 at 5:53pm, Darth Tang wrote:
RE: War pick

http://www.albionarmorers.com/axes/warhammer.htm

Here's a war hamer head from my favorite dealer. I'm going to buy it when I find a suitable handle (or they start offering it mounted, which they are leaning towards).

Is that a 'pick' or a hammer'?

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On 2/14/2003 at 6:36pm, Shadeling wrote:
RE: War pick

Darth Tang wrote: http://www.albionarmorers.com/axes/warhammer.htm

Here's a war hamer head from my favorite dealer. I'm going to buy it when I find a suitable handle (or they start offering it mounted, which they are leaning towards).

Is that a 'pick' or a hammer'?


It is warhammer.

Historically Warhammers had a spike on one side and hammer on the other...a multipurpose weapon so to speak. Whereas picks really were just massive spikes (like that Indian one I posted).

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On 2/14/2003 at 9:46pm, Irmo wrote:
RE: War pick

How about this for a war pick. It's a drawing, but I think there's no mistaking it for a warhammer. As to how effective it would be, who knows...

http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=1388

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On 2/14/2003 at 9:59pm, Shadeling wrote:
RE: War pick

Irmo wrote: How about this for a war pick. It's a drawing, but I think there's no mistaking it for a warhammer. As to how effective it would be, who knows...

http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=1388


Actually that picture has a spike on each end...not very hammery if you ask me.

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On 2/15/2003 at 5:51pm, Irmo wrote:
RE: War pick

Shadeling wrote:
Irmo wrote: How about this for a war pick. It's a drawing, but I think there's no mistaking it for a warhammer. As to how effective it would be, who knows...

http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=1388


Actually that picture has a spike on each end...not very hammery if you ask me.


Which is why I said there's no mistaking it for a warhammer.

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On 2/15/2003 at 8:11pm, Shadeling wrote:
RE: War pick

Irmo wrote:
Shadeling wrote:
Irmo wrote: How about this for a war pick. It's a drawing, but I think there's no mistaking it for a warhammer. As to how effective it would be, who knows...

http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=1388


Actually that picture has a spike on each end...not very hammery if you ask me.


Which is why I said there's no mistaking it for a warhammer.


Sorry I mis-read what you said.

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On 2/17/2003 at 11:31am, Salamander wrote:
War Pick.

I don't have an image, but if I recall correctly the warpick was just a lighter pick axe that had been sharpened while the handle was lengthened and reinforced with metal bands. It was originally a peasant's weapon, but when the nobility saw how well it dealt with mail, they adopted the design for their own uses in the form of the mounted or horseman's pick.

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