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Topic: Anyone have an Open Source Systems list?
Started by: Michael Hopcroft
Started on: 3/28/2003
Board: Indie Game Design


On 3/28/2003 at 8:43am, Michael Hopcroft wrote:
Anyone have an Open Source Systems list?

Does anyone have a liost of all the game systems that have Open Gaming License-like licenses on them? In other words, all the pre-existing systems I can make commercial products with without paying a royalty fee?

I know of three: D20, Action! and FUDGE. I'm not sure about Greg Porter's EABA. Are there any others? (Note that Action!'s license is somewhat nebulous at the moment -- Mark is evidently still deciding on the language and has been huddled with his lawyer for months on the best way to do it).

Systems I know that are NOT Open License: Hero, GURPS, Tri-Stat.

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On 3/28/2003 at 9:21am, Rich Stokes wrote:
RE: Anyone have an Open Source Systems list?

I assume that you know this, but it's also worth pointing out that Fuzion isn't open, although a lot of people seem to think it is.

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On 3/28/2003 at 2:45pm, Mike Holmes wrote:
RE: Anyone have an Open Source Systems list?

Rich Stokes wrote: I assume that you know this, but it's also worth pointing out that Fuzion isn't open, although a lot of people seem to think it is.


I'm not sure about that. It might not be "open" but I think that FUDGE isn't either by that definition. You have to get approval for both, I think.

The Action! system from some of the same people as produced Fuzion is, I think, open in some sense. Here's a link to its license:
http://www.action-system.com/astl.html

I'd take a look at each individually before deciding that it's as "open" as what you want.

Mike

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On 3/28/2003 at 9:39pm, ThreeGee wrote:
RE: Anyone have an Open Source Systems list?

Hey Michael,

I hate to blow my own horn, but both Slayer of Dragon RPG and DRAGON SUN : JAZZ NINJA are open. Slayer was first released under the OpenContent License (OPL), and is now under the Open Gaming License (OGL). DS:JN is also under OGL.

I imagine there are a number of independent games that are open, but honestly I cannot name any at the moment.

It might be worth looking at this link: http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/licenses.html

Later,
Grant

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On 3/28/2003 at 10:26pm, ethan_greer wrote:
RE: Anyone have an Open Source Systems list?

I know of no game system more "open" than my own Pollies.

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On 3/29/2003 at 10:02am, talysman wrote:
RE: Anyone have an Open Source Systems list?

I think S John Ross's game Risus: the Anything RPG is open, although perhaps that is debatable; the license is similar to FUDGE, but I believe you don't have to ask permission to use the Risus rules, as long as you follow the proper procedure.

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On 3/29/2003 at 5:31pm, iago wrote:
RE: Anyone have an Open Source Systems list?

Mike Holmes wrote:
Rich Stokes wrote: I assume that you know this, but it's also worth pointing out that Fuzion isn't open, although a lot of people seem to think it is.


I'm not sure about that. It might not be "open" but I think that FUDGE isn't either by that definition. You have to get approval for both, I think.


Last I'd heard, using Fuzion required cash outlay. FUDGE is open (all you have to do is include the license statement, plainly available with the core rules) unless you want to publish things for it commercially; if you want to go commercial, you ask FUDGE's creator for permission, sign a couple papers, get those papers and a couple copies of your product to the creator. Rob and I picked one up for Fate; it's a breeze.

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On 4/1/2003 at 3:35am, bladamson wrote:
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On 4/1/2003 at 4:40pm, axonrg wrote:
RE: Anyone have an Open Source Systems list?

Thanks for the heads up bladamson (and well done on an excellent RPG BTW. The FRPGC web site is back again - we irritatingly had problems with our ISP. All resolved now (I hope).

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