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Started by Bob McNamee, March 29, 2004, 08:41:46 PM
Quote from: montagHi therefirst off, I'd like to repeat your post was very helpful. Thanks.Concerning the GM, I know the example you cited and I'd say that it hardly comes close to the suggestions you made above. I'd guess in play the GM – doing his job properly – would say his goal is to have the Baron get away/not be caught, which might eliminate two of your possibilities.However, IMHO it is pointless to debate what may or might have happened and I wouldn't want to derail the thread with that debate. At the very least, I'd want to hear other's opinions first.If you desire so, we can discuss the details of what the GM should or would have done in the baron example via PM (or in the thread if for some reason you want this public. Just say so.) In the meantime, I'd again like to thank you for the insightful example with the baron, I benefitted greatly from it.bestmarkus
Quote from: Bob McNameeShe confronts Baron Woltmir and a bodyguard in the stableyard of an Inn. He is responsible for enslaving villagers in his mines. The bodyguard draws a sword immediately... the GM declares a Fighting Conflict...Ok...lets say she accepts a Discommode and Fails at the Goal and narrates....Nar possiblity #3With the idea that her Fighting skill is competant but an unreliable way of acheiving her Goals.She draws her long knife and tries to fight past the bodyguard to get to the Baron.With a terrifying wolf howl she deflects the bodyguards blow and hammers him in the head with the hilt of her knife dropping him. She quickly crosses to the Baron before he can mount. She holds her knife to his throat and orders him to surrender. A bare second after... the fallen Bodyguards sword point is at her back. Instinctively she spins with her amazing reflexes and counters his threat, with just a shallow slice to her back.The Baron's body falls back in a shower of blood as his head is mostly severed by her action...Nar possiblity #4From the "Succeed, but.." school of narrationShe draws her long knife and tries to fight past the bodyguard to get to the Baron. She steps inside the thrust of the bodyguard...hammering him in the temple... dropping him unconscious. The Baron aborts mounting, and draws his sword, with a cruel sneer. His weaves a cunning set of cuts with his weapon. She manages to step inside his guard disarming him, and sweeping his legs out from under him."Surrender or die"-she says"I would surrender"-says the Baron as he spits in her eyes, burning them with tobacco juice"But it would look bad to my men"When she wipes her eyes, she can she that the fight has attracted the attention of many of the Baron's drunken soldiers from inside the Inn. She holds the Baron between her and most of the drawn bows."I suggest you let me go ... I'll even give you a moment's head start running ....", gloats the Baron.
Quote from: montagThe reason, why I'd balk at #3 is simply that I'd understand my goal (as the GM) is that the baron is not captured/get's away.
Quote from: montagIt would depend a lot on circumstances of course and on what exactly was said and not said during the fair and clear stage. Anyway, my main argument would be, that while "the baron survives" may not have been explicitly mentioned during fair and clear
Quote from: montagit just occurred to me that the solution to point one and three may be quite simple: Point one: any of the four outcomes is possible if it was in some way agreed upon during FAC, otherwise only #1 is ok. Same goes for point three (and to a certain extent this also applies to my second point).
QuoteIf it's understood that the game isn't about winning, such a request _might_ indicate that the player is not keen on the NPC and wants someone else, but if a player were to try this repeatedly I'd say a longer chat on play goals and expectations is necessary.