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Started by ivan23, December 22, 2004, 01:20:41 PM
Quoteas well as the vast majority, who have lost all sense of self-reliance in favor of convenience and comfort.
Quote from: ivan23I'm especially interested in knowing if my definition of Humanity seems like a hose-job ... is the tightrope too thin for Sorcerors to walk effectively?
QuoteHumanity is defined as both your own self-reliance, and your connection and contribution to a community. etc....
Quote from: Mike HolmesFirst, this is a POV that I really can't buy into personally, so I won't be playing this one-sheet any time soon. <snip> A humanity definition has to appeal to all of the players involved, not just the GM.
Quote from: Mike HolmesSo do you have enough players who are going to like this?
Quote from: Ron EdwardsTwo characters might both have high Humanity through very different social and technological routes. Neat.
Quote from: Ron EdwardsI don't really have a strong visual or aesthetic grasp of your concept of "demons," though. What's their look and feel?
Quote from: jc_maddenIt makes it easy for me to see how one's own humanity could be a reflection of what one gives back to the whole.
Quote from: jc_madden]Also I like the language of your descriptors they really do make it easy to build a charcter from them. It makes me know something about the person with little effort, that's what a good descriptor is to me.
QuoteHumanity is defined as both your own self-reliance, and your connection and contribution to a community. In Western society, this sharp dividing line is what separates you from hermits and cultists (the former having no ties that bind, the latter having no ability to make their own way in the world) as well as the vast majority, who have lost all sense of self-reliance in favor of convenience and comfort.
QuoteDemons are from an alternate timestream, or dimension, or mathematical notation ... they're pretty evasive about the entire thing. They share an amused antipathy toward all forms of human eschatology, with no interest in religion or history except as it relates to how they are currently being served. In fact, any large and organized groupings of humanity seem anithetical to the demons. They want people scattered, dispersed, and bound together only in small groups.
Quote from: SnowdenMechanically, I don't see how the system supports the notion of Humanity as a balance point between two opposite extremes.
QuoteI don't really see how this would oppose Humanity as you've defined it. If anything, it looks like Demons would support the "self-reliance" part of your definition; I don't think "small, scattered groups" are necessarily incompatible with the notion of "community" either.
Quote from: SnowdenI actually haven't seen the dual Humanity rules, so there may be something I'm missing there. However, this setting seems like it's not so much as "two different Humanity descriptions" as "two opposite Humanity descriptions ...