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Started by J. Tuomas Harviainen, September 20, 2005, 05:06:48 PM
Quote from: Ron Edwards on September 20, 2005, 09:44:50 AMDiscussions of what Social Contract does and does not mean should be taken to new threads in the GNS forum. I'll be happy to explain how the Big Model's being misrepresented in the last few posts, if anyone is interested.
Quote from: Ron Edwards on September 20, 2005, 06:08:23 PMNow, here's the part that I got squirrelly about: the assumption that "role-playing" as a sociological phenomenon, today, must include a functional Social Contract.
Quote from: Ron Edwards on September 20, 2005, 06:08:23 PMSo yes, my essays do presume a functional Social Contract which includes at least the possibility of arriving at a Creative Agenda, as expressed through the consistency of Techniques and all the other layers/boxes.
Quote from: Ron Edwards on September 21, 2005, 12:04:21 PMAnd you know what? That's not my problem, intellectually or creatively.
Quote from: Ron Edwards on September 21, 2005, 12:04:21 PMThere's nothing we can do, and no point in modelling or theorizing, about those who are unable and/or unwilling.
Quote from: Halzebier on September 21, 2005, 11:23:46 AMJust look at, for example, Breaking the Ice or Sex & Sorcery: They both explicitly discuss comfort levels in regard to sexual content.That's advice for building a functioning social contract, right there.
Quote from: Ari-Pekka Lappi on September 21, 2005, 06:59:41 PMThe basis of a proper social contract in role-playing games is that players trust each other [...] Another very usable advice is: play with those who you know well and who think similarly. Both advices have few disadvantages.
QuotePersonally, I would prefer to start with fundaments of SC, not with a practical advises although they may also be quite usable.
Quote from: Halzebier on September 21, 2005, 08:02:43 PMThis advice is rather trivial.
Quote from: Ron Edwards on September 21, 2005, 08:57:26 PMPhrases like "The Big Model is flawed" or "incomplete" are not going to help that happen.
Quote from: Ron Edwards on September 21, 2005, 08:57:26 PMI invite you to provide Social Contract ideas and experiences which anchor the deeper/inner portions of the Big Model into social reality. I also suggest, and request, that you do so by stating the positive and successful aspects of the ideas that you are using.