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Author Topic: "Cooling off" period between joining and 1st post?  (Read 4285 times)
DP
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« on: May 28, 2003, 01:06:25 PM »

Let's say you joined the Forge today. Is it possible and/or desireable for the moderators to suspend your ability to post for about 24 hours? That way, you at least might take the time to read some stickies and old threads before opening yer yap. I don't mean to pick on this guy; he's just a "target of opportunity."
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Dave Panchyk
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Fabrice G.
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2003, 02:03:59 PM »

Hi Dave,

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Is it possible and/or desireable for the moderators to suspend your ability to post for about 24 hours?


I don't think it would be that much a technical problem, but would it be a good think to do ? I can't speak for those you decide here (namely Ron and Clinton), but IMO it's not a thing to do.

Let me explain why. If someone decides to register it is often because they intend to post, if not, being a unregistered guest is enough to read all the posts over here.

I find it way more welcoming the way things are now, even if that means that, sometimes, someone make a mistake or is behaving like an ass. More often than not, a welcoming post explaining how things work on this board is all it take to make things right. For the other cases... well any comunity has such things.

Anyway, that's all IMHO.


Take care,

Fabrice.
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Clinton R. Nixon
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2003, 02:08:30 PM »

Not desirable.

It's sometimes hard for people to get how moderation works - or why it exists - at the Forge. Detractors, and people who just don't quite get it yet, think it's to make all conversation the same, or weed out thoughts Ron and I don't like. It's not that at all, though. If I had to lay it out very simple, it'd be:

- Hi. We're the Forge, and we have good, solid, on-topic discussion. We've got some vocabulary, and some structures for how we communicate, but those'll come in time.
- Anyone is allowed to communicate whatever ideas they want. Make sure they're on-topic for the forum you're posting in, and if they're not on-topic for any forum, then this isn't the place for them. We talk only about playing, designing, promoting, and publishing games here.
- If you mess up, we'll let you know. Discourse is a learning process.

Dave - I know you weren't trying to pick on that guy, but that was a good example of a good first post. (Someone's scratching their head right now.) He said, "Hey, I'm working on this game," and gave little information, and kinda-maybe-described a pastiche of a lot of pop culture that's going on right now.

But, there's a lot of room to learn there. That guy, with a little help from the posters here, could learn how we do business at the Forge and become a real asset one day. Or he could learn how we do business and decide not to be a part of it, which would be just as valid.
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Clinton R. Nixon
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Ron Edwards
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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2003, 07:48:13 PM »

Hello,

I'm big on the "no blood, no foul" concept myself. I don't always succeed in applying it properly, per the person and per the moment, but it's what I'm trying to go by.

Running a search on that phrase will turn up some good threads to review.

Best,
Ron
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Fade Manley
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2003, 03:10:51 PM »

I don't think it would be particularly helpful. After all, one can read the threads without registering anyway; if someone registers to post, it's unlikely that they'll start reading threads if they hadn't been intending to already simply because of a delay period. I haven't posted much myself since I signed up--I never feel quite up to the level of discourse on these forums--but it would have seemed a little strange to actually register and then still not be able to post for a certain amount of time.
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Mike Holmes
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2003, 05:20:43 AM »

Good point Heather.

The people who post problematically haven't read things first, and, if given another 24 hours, probably still won't. It seems to suffice to let people post, and let them know what the score is. If they read around first, there's every possibility that they'll get how it should be done. New posters come on all the time with appropriate posts (in fact I think that many seem to be overcautious in posting, because they're testing the waters).

Mike
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BenjaminRogers
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2003, 02:55:32 PM »

There is also the consideration that some of us are quite familiar with both the gaming industry and message forums from several other places on the Internet.  I can't really think of an example off the top of my head, but I'm sure one will come to me shortly.

Hypothetically, of course, some of these first-time posters may have actually read the etiquette thread prior to their first post.  In fact, some may even be so familiar with this type of of message forum that they already have a signature.

By the way...

...Hello!  

This is my first post and I just joined today.
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