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Matt Snyder
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2003, 10:51:09 AM »

Falconis, since we're clearly not using the technology to your satisfaction (deleted posts, smileys, etc.), what is it you would like to get out of the Forge? What do you wish to discuss?

To clarify, this site is about "pen-and-paper" role-playing games, rather than computer role-playing games, which seems to be your interest perhaps. If you are also interested in pen-and-paper RPGs, then what would you like to discuss here? By all means, start a discussion or join one with some replies of your own.

But, please understand this forum has a very specific group agreement, and that it is very different from many forums on the Internet. For example, we do not, as a rule, delete posts, despite having the capability to do so. This software does in fact have that function (I am allowed to use it on the single forum I moderate, and I know it applies to other forums I do not moderate).

If you are not interested in discussing pen-and-paper role-playing, please re-consider posting here. I'm sure there are many forums available that are more suitable to your interests.

If your interest is picking on this forum just to see the response you receive, that's too bad. I hope that's not your intention.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2003, 10:56:30 AM »

Quote from: Matt Snyder
Falconis, since we're clearly not using the technology to your satisfaction (deleted posts, smileys, etc.), what is it you would like to get out of the Forge? What do you wish to discuss?

To clarify, this site is about "pen-and-paper" role-playing games, rather than computer role-playing games, which seems to be your interest perhaps. If you are also interested in pen-and-paper RPGs, then what would you like to discuss here? By all means, start a discussion or join one with some replies of your own.

But, please understand this forum has a very specific group agreement, and that it is very different from many forums on the Internet. For example, we do not, as a rule, delete posts, despite having the capability to do so. This software does in fact have that function (I am allowed to use it on the single forum I moderate, and I know it applies to other forums I do not moderate).

If you are not interested in discussing pen-and-paper role-playing, please re-consider posting here. I'm sure there are many forums available that are more suitable to your interests.

If your interest is picking on this forum just to see the response you receive, that's too bad. I hope that's not your intention.


Dude I don't believe its you job to ask me that
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Ron Edwards
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2003, 10:59:16 AM »

Hello,

It's my job to ask that question. And I'm asking it, and hoping you will answer.

Best,
Ron
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TheRedSoup
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2003, 12:15:14 PM »

quote="Falconis"]Dude I don't believe its you job to ask me that[/quote]

What Matt said was a mature and respectful way of helping you understand what this forum is for.  That comment of yours was out of line.  He didn't have to have the 'job' to tell you that.  It's understood by the people who post here and he, I repeat, respectfully explained it to you.

I think you may have stepped on too many toes.  They just want you to understand why the forum exists in the first place, and steer the people who want to talk about other things somewhere else.

It's nothing personal.
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Falconis
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2003, 12:52:56 PM »

Quote from: TheRedSoup
quote="Falconis"]Dude I don't believe its you job to ask me that


What Matt said was a mature and respectful way of helping you understand what this forum is for.  That comment of yours was out of line.  He didn't have to have the 'job' to tell you that.  It's understood by the people who post here and he, I repeat, respectfully explained it to you.

I think you may have stepped on too many toes.  They just want you to understand why the forum exists in the first place, and steer the people who want to talk about other things somewhere else.

It's nothing personal.[/quote]

Ok that was the dummest response ever. I'm sure you better things to do than defend someone on a pointless matter.
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2003, 01:03:26 PM »

Falc, I'm on record as saying I think the initial response to your post was out of line.

However, since then your behavior has been petty and childish.  I've yet to see even an acknowledgement of the issues at hand from you.  Just wasted off hand flippant comments.  Whatever environment you may be used to elsewhere, you will find the Forge demands a high calibre of posting content and intellectual honesty.

If you want to be a part of this community I encourage you to look around and learn the ropes.  If at this point you are interested only in sniping and making ostensibly clever remarks, then I encourage you to look elsewhere.

It is indeed ALL of our jobs to help bring new members up to speed on the Forge.  I am sorry that our initial effort in your case was not one of our best introductions.  However, you've not made any effort to participate in the process.  

I think you need to seriously evaluate whether you want to be a part of this community at all.  If you do, then like a Home Owners Association, we have a few "restrictive covenants" that govern member behavior that you need to be willing to accept.

If you are not interested in joining us, or are unwilling to abide by our rules, then goodbye and thanks for stopping by.
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2003, 01:11:45 PM »

Ralph's right, Falconis. You really should decide.

I private-messaged you to ask about this, and both Matt's question and mine still stand.

Consider it a friendly invitation, but it's also a choice.

Best,
Ron
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Brian Leybourne
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2003, 04:17:27 PM »

This is probably an out of line comment , but hell, everyone is using kid gloves on this guy and getting nothing but snarkiness and rudeness in return. It's time to realise that this guy isn't responding.

Falconis, in case it's not obvious by now (in which case you're a moron) you're not welcome here unles you change your attitude. Either do so or naff off.

Brian.
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2003, 04:35:53 PM »

Honestly, methinks some of you have been hanging around the Forge so much you've forgotten what a troll looks like...as well as the attendant, traditional flamebait they leave in their wake.
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2003, 04:47:56 PM »

Brian and Raven, calling the guy a moron only accerbates the problem. It's precisely what he would like us to do. He's likely to, you know, stop being annoying when we stop getting annoyed. And, frankly and honestly, I'm not annoyed. I mean, if we get one problematic poster in many, many months, I for one won't complain. I have not forgotten what the "rest" is like.
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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2003, 05:31:46 PM »

Matt, while I see where you're coming from, I'm looking at the pattern thus far presented by his statements and his behavior, and calling what I'm seeing.

In any case, if I'm calling anyone a moron, it's you guys for even responding to it at all. This IS the troll-trap -- it isn't blatant, flaming, "FAGS WILL BURN IN HELL!" kind of stuff, but its par for the course: just enough to cause a reaction.

Trolls like to see people scurrying about making a fuss over them, in some fashion or other -- even a polite fuss -- and that's exactly what's getting made.

Warning sent, I now step out of all this to let it do as it will. And of course, if Falconis proves me wrong and becomes a valuable contributor here, well, good for him! I'll be pleased.
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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2003, 07:09:06 PM »

Dudes, am I the only guy who has usenet experience here? Falconis is a TROLL. Tee ar oh el el. Put him in the dumpster and move on. You've given him a major Forge flap and a TWO PAGE THREAD! You guys are such a bountiful catch, he can't even haul the net over the side of the boat. The guy is probably laughing his 14 year old head off. I hope Ron and Clinton have the last laugh by nailing his butt for DoS.
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2003, 08:26:13 PM »

Except for Falconis, no one else post, please. I'm trying to have a dialogue. It may or may not happen, but it sure's hell won't as long as y'all keep typing.

Best,
Ron
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Falconis
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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2003, 08:40:35 PM »

Sorry my poeple I was in school. I just want to reply to a couple of things.
first off I'm 17. Second I DO think its funny what you people have posted in this so called "trap". And third all of you must be freaks to have compared me to some fantasy figure such as a troll. OH I bet you where all waiting eagerly for my reply. Wow (here comes the childish remark) you guys are suckers.
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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2003, 08:50:14 PM »

'K. Let that be a lesson to everyone.

And this thread is now closed and locked. I was originally planning to split its contents off to the Inactive File, if they proved to be non-substantive. However, I'm letting it stand because Forge members need to see that leave it to the moderator is the only effective policy in cases like this.

Best,
Ron
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